How should I express this angle in words?

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The discussion revolves around how to articulate the angle theta in a research context involving a swing's motion. Participants explore various expressions for this angle, considering clarity and precision in defining it as an independent variable in their research question.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests expressing theta as "the displacement angle of the swing from equilibrium."
  • Another participant refines this to include that positive angles are in the forward direction.
  • There is a discussion about the necessity of providing a datum zero for position variables in mechanics.
  • Some participants argue that a diagram with the displacement angle and restoring force would suffice, emphasizing that mathematics can often convey these concepts more effectively than words.
  • Concerns are raised about the clarity required for research marks, highlighting the importance of precise definitions for dependent and independent variables.
  • One participant proposes alternative terms such as "inclination angle" or "polar angle," suggesting that these could be appropriate within a spherical coordinate system.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the best way to articulate the angle theta, with no consensus reached on a single preferred expression. Some emphasize the importance of diagrams, while others focus on the necessity of clear verbal definitions.

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There are unresolved issues regarding the definitions of terms and the appropriateness of various coordinate systems for describing the angle.

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Hi! The diagram above is showing a man swinging a swing (a facility you can find in playgrounds) back and forth. I'm trying to come up with a concise expression in words that describes the angle noted as theta so that I can write a clear and effective research question (theta is the independent variable in my research). How should I express this angle in words (or in English)??
 

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My attempt...
Where theta is the displacement angle of the swing from equilibrium.
 
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NickTheFill said:
My attempt...
Where theta is the displacement angle of the swing from equilibrium.
With positive angles in the forward direction.
 
--- relative to the vertical . You must always provide a datum zero for any position variable in mechanics .
 
Nidum said:
--- relative to the vertical . You must always provide a datum zero for any position variable in mechanics .
FactChecker said:
With positive angles in the forward direction.
NickTheFill said:
My attempt...
Where theta is the displacement angle of the swing from equilibrium.
So will it be
"Displacement angle of swing from equilibrium relative to the vertical with positive angles in the forward direction"...?
 
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ChanYoung Park said:
How should I express this angle in words (or in English)??
I would have thought that a diagram with the displacement angle and the restoring force marked would be quite good enough. It is a very standard set up and not likely to be to be misunderstood. Maths is often better than words to describe such things. No need to worry overmuch. I think.
 
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sophiecentaur said:
I would have thought that a diagram with the displacement angle and the restoring force marked would be quite good enough. It is a very standard set up and not likely to be to be misunderstood. Maths is often better than words to describe such things. No need to worry overmuch. I think.
Even with full use of mathematics, a careful and precise definition of the variables and coordinate systems is a good practice.
 
sophiecentaur said:
I would have thought that a diagram with the displacement angle and the restoring force marked would be quite good enough. It is a very standard set up and not likely to be to be misunderstood. Maths is often better than words to describe such things. No need to worry overmuch. I think.
The problem is that I will get marks for my research question and it will be marked based on how clear the dependent and indenpendent variables are; it's mentioned in the criteria...
 
ChanYoung Park said:
The problem is that I will get marks for my research question and it will be marked based on how clear the dependent and indenpendent variables are; it's mentioned in the criteria...
Then you want a diagram and the correct word descriptions. The diagram helps very much to visualize but I have seen many diagrams that get too complicated to really be clear about each part. Therefore, clear word definitions are also nice.
 
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Can't we simply call it "inclination angle" or "polar angle"?. Isn't it so if we choose a spherical coordinate system with its origin at the hinge? (and proper directions for positive orientation).
 

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