How steep is the hill at a point 1 mile north?

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The discussion centers on solving a problem related to the height and steepness of a hill defined by the function h(x,y)=10(2xy-3x^2-4y^2-18x+28y+12). Participants attempt to find the coordinates of the hill's peak, which they initially calculate as (-26,-3), but are advised to recheck their algebra due to errors in the results. The gradient of the hill is discussed as a means to determine its steepness at a point 1 mile north, with emphasis on ensuring all factors are correctly accounted for in calculations. There is a clarification that the x-coordinate represents the distance east of South Hadley, and the accuracy of the math is critical for determining the hill's characteristics. Overall, the conversation highlights the importance of precise calculations in multivariable calculus problems.
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Homework Statement



the height of a certain hill is given by

h(x,y)=10(2xy-3x^2-4y^2-18x+28y+12)

wher y is the distance north and x is the distance east of south hadley

a)Where is the top of the hill

b) how high is the hill

c) how steep is the hill at a point 1 mile north

Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution



dh/dx=y-3x-9=0

dh/dy=x-4y+14=0

using linear system of algebra I find that my coordinates on top of the hill are

(x=-26,y=-3)

b) just plug in the coordinates you got in part a, into the h function; answer: h(x=-26,y=-3)

c) the slope would just be the gradient of h , which is: \nablah=(dh/dx)x-hat+(dh/dy)y-hat=-7x-hat+11y-hat

|\nablah|=sqrt(49+196)

direction is just: cos(theta)=\nablah dot dl/(
|\nablah||dl|), you take the inverse of cos(theta)
 
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In the problem it is given that the x is the distance east of south.
Will it make any difference on the co-ordinates of the tip of the hill?
 
noblegas said:
dh/dx=y-3x-9=0

dh/dy=x-4y+14=0

using linear system of algebra I find that my coordinates on top of the hill are

(x=-26,y=-3)

Your equations look correct, but your result (-26,-3) is not...check your algebra.

b) just plug in the coordinates you got in part a, into the h function; answer: h(x=-26,y=-3)

Right idea

c) the slope would just be the gradient of h , which is: \nablah=(dh/dx)x-hat+(dh/dy)y-hat=-7x-hat+11y-hat

Check your math on that again...you are missing a factor of 20(!) and your x-component is incorrect.
 
rl.bhat said:
In the problem it is given that the x is the distance east of south.
Will it make any difference on the co-ordinates of the tip of the hill?

No, "x is the distance East of South Hadley"...South Hadley being the name of a town :wink:
 
To be fair, this isn't a very good characterization of the topography of the region. =( On what interval is this function valid? I get the feeling they're aiming for Mount Holyoke, simply because it's close to where the peak of the function is, though.
 
gabbagabbahey said:
Check your math on that again...you are missing a factor of 20(!) and your x-component is incorrect.


I did check my math and I continue to come up with: \nablah=(y-3x-9)x-hat+(x-4*y+14)y-hat, with x=1,y=1
 
noblegas said:
I did check my math and I continue to come up with: \nablah=(y-3x-9)x-hat+(x-4*y+14)y-hat, with x=1,y=1

Look at your original expression for 'h'...you are missing the factor of 10 in front and also another factor of 2 that you seem to have divided by...in part (a) it didn't matter, because you were setting it equal to zero, but here it does matter.

Also, when you plug in (1,1) to your above expression you do not get (-7,11).
 
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