How to calculate the propagation error for a tricky Eq

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To calculate the propagation error for the function alpha = [i1.g2 / (i2.g1) - 1] / (t1-t2), the classical error propagation formula is applied, incorporating the uncertainties of each variable. The user reports an unexpectedly high error percentage of approximately 1000%, which raises concerns about the validity of the error calculations. The discussion highlights that when dealing with small differences between similar-sized numbers, such as t1 and t2, the error can be significantly magnified. Additionally, the ratio of the products in the equation is close to 1, further amplifying the error percentage. Properly assessing the closeness of the measured values is crucial to accurately calculating propagation error.
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Hello Please help me, my function is;

alpha = [ i1.g2 / (i2.g1) - 1 ] / ( t1-t2 )

I will have to measure i1, i2, g1, g2, t1 and t2 them
I made classical error porpagation, but I don't know if this is ok.

How is the proper way to calculate the propagation error for alpha?
 
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andresfirman said:
Hello Please help me, my function is;

alpha = [ i1.g2 / (i2.g1) - 1 ] / ( t1-t2 )

I will have to measure i1, i2, g1, g2, t1 and t2 them
I made classical error porpagation, but I don't know if this is ok.

How is the proper way to calculate the propagation error for alpha?
Hello andresfirman, :welcome:

PF culture encourages you to set up some attempt before assistance is given.
What is the general formula for error propagation that you are using ?
 
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BvU said:
Hello andresfirman, :welcome:

PF culture encourages you to set up some attempt before assistance is given.
What is the general formula for error propagation that you are using ?
Hi, I`m using

d(alpha)/d(i1)*Δi1 + d(alpha)/d(i2)*Δi2 + d(alpha)/d(g1)*Δg1 + d(alpha)/d(g2)*Δg2 + d(alpha)/d(t1)*Δt1 + d(alpha)/d(t2)*Δt2

Δi1 = 0.3 %
Δi2 = 0.3 %
Δg1 = 3.2 %
Δg2 = 3.2 %
Δt1 = 0.2 C
Δt2 = 0.2 C

Its values aprox are;
t1 and t2 is near 26 C
g1 and g2 is near 950
and i1 and i1 are near 7.5

it give me aprox 1000 % of error its too big I think, I don't know where is the problem. I don't think that the quantities errors are too big for the answer of 1000 %
 
andresfirman said:
t1 and t2 is near 26 C
But how near are they to each other? When you take differences of numbers of similar size the error percentage can get hugely magnified.
Same issue arises with i1.g2-i2.g1.
 
haruspex said:
But how near are they to each other? When you take differences of numbers of similar size the error percentage can get hugely magnified.
Same issue arises with i1.g2-i2.g1.
Hi!;
t1 = 27.6 C
t2 = 44.9 C
g1 = 993
g2 = 1000
i1 = 7.5
i2 = 7.6

so, alpha is a very low number
alpha = 0.0003766
 
andresfirman said:
g1 = 993
g2 = 1000
i1 = 7.5
i2 = 7.6
There's a problem. The ratio of the products, as in your equation, differs from 1 by only 0.6%. That effectively amplifies the error percentage by 1/0.006= 167.
 
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