How to calculate time constant in RC circuit

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The discussion revolves around calculating the time constant in an RC circuit and determining the voltage response of a capacitor over time, specifically avoiding the use of Laplace transforms. Participants explore various methods and concepts related to the problem.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant states that the time constant tau is equal to RC and provides a formula for the voltage response Vc(t).
  • Another participant corrects the first by asserting that a charged capacitor behaves like an open circuit, not a short-circuit.
  • A suggestion is made to use Thevenin equivalent circuits to find the equivalent resistance connected to the capacitor.
  • A different approach is proposed involving the use of node voltages and the integral of current to derive the voltage across the capacitor.
  • One participant claims to have solved the problem, presenting a specific voltage response equation.
  • There is a question about the equivalent resistance being 5 kohm, with a request for calculation details.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the behavior of the capacitor when charged, and there is no consensus on the equivalent resistance value or the method to calculate the time constant without Laplace transforms.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various methods and assumptions, such as the use of Thevenin equivalents and node voltage analysis, without resolving the specific calculations or confirming the values used in their approaches.

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Students and individuals interested in circuit analysis, particularly those studying RC circuits and time response calculations.

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Hello.

Homework Statement


Calculate the time response, Vc(t), of the circuit shown in the attached image. Not use Laplace transforms.

Homework Equations


I know that tau = RC in a typical RC circuit.

In general, Vc(t) = {V0 - Vf}*exp(-t/tau) + Vf, where V0 is initial voltage and Vf is final voltage.

The Attempt at a Solution


Once charged, the capacitor behaves like a short-circuit, so I can calculate that Vf = 2,5 V. In addition, V0 = 0 V. So, I only need to know the value of tau. How could I calculate it without using Laplace transforms?

Thank you.
 

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Once charged, the capacitor behaves like a short-circuit
Actually, when a capacitor is charged, no more current flows through it so it acts like an open circuit.

How could I calculate [tau] without using Laplace transforms?
General procedure: remove sources from the circuit by shorting any voltage sources and opening any current sources. Then find Req as it would appear across the capacitor terminal (tau = CReq).
 
Do you know about Thevenin equivalent circuits? Lewando's suggestion follows from finding the Thevenin equivalent of what's connected to the capacitor.
 
Assume currents i1, i2, etc., in the various branches, and determine the node voltages. The voltage across the capacitor is 1/C*(integral of i).dt
You should find capacitor current i = Re.Vs

The voltage as a function of time is obtained by solving the first order differential equation. The time constant of the exponential in the time response is Re*C

* I used Re to represent the term by which you divide Vs. The term has units of resistance and it appears in the calculations when you are determining capacitor current.
 
Thank you.

I've just solved the problem: Vc(t) = 2.5(1-exp(-200t))u(t).
 
Isn't the equivalent resistance is 5kohm?
 
wstclyq said:
Isn't the equivalent resistance is 5kohm?

Can you show your calculation?
 

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