How to Calculate Work Done by Kinetic Friction on a Toboggan?

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To calculate the work done by kinetic friction on a toboggan, first determine the frictional force using the coefficient of kinetic friction and the normal force. The normal force is calculated as the weight of the toboggan, which is the mass multiplied by gravity. The work done by friction is then found using the formula W = F * Δd * cos(θ), where θ is 180 degrees since friction opposes motion. The final calculated work done by kinetic friction is -1.90 x 10^3 J, indicating energy loss due to friction. Understanding the relationship between force, distance, and friction is crucial for solving this type of problem.
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Homework Statement


A toboggan carrying two children with a total mass of 85.0 kg reaches its maximum speed at the bottom of a hill, and then glides to a stop in 21.0 m along a horizontal surface. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the toboggan and the snow surface is 0.110. Calculate the work done by the kinetic friction?


Homework Equations


W=FCosθΔd


The Attempt at a Solution


m = 85 kg
Δd = 21.0 m
θ = 0
W = ?
Mu = 0.110

I'm pretty confused on this, do I somehow get Mu to Ff and then plug it into the work equation?

The final answer is -1.90 x10^3 J but from what I've tried I never got it.
 
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Jimmer7 said:

Homework Statement


A toboggan carrying two children with a total mass of 85.0 kg reaches its maximum speed at the bottom of a hill, and then glides to a stop in 21.0 m along a horizontal surface. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the toboggan and the snow surface is 0.110. Calculate the work done by the kinetic friction?


Homework Equations


W=FCosθΔd


The Attempt at a Solution


m = 85 kg
Δd = 21.0 m
θ = 0
W = ?
Mu = 0.110

I'm pretty confused on this, do I somehow get Mu to Ff and then plug it into the work equation?

The final answer is -1.90 x10^3 J but from what I've tried I never got it.

There's no angle in the problem, so your Relevant Equation is not what you need here.

The toboggan is traveling horizontally as it slows to a stop due to friction. So, it looks like you'll need to find the frictional force acting (what equation will you apply?) and then an equation relating force and distance to work done. What equation might that be?
 
gneill said:
There's no angle in the problem, so your Relevant Equation is not what you need here.

The toboggan is traveling horizontally as it slows to a stop due to friction. So, it looks like you'll need to find the frictional force acting (what equation will you apply?) and then an equation relating force and distance to work done. What equation might that be?

I tried it and I got it right. :)

I did:
FF = M.FN
FN = mg = 85 (9.8)
FF = 0.110 (85 x 9.8) = 91.7235 N
W = (91.7235)(0)(21) = 1926.1935
W = -1.90 x 10^3 J

made it cos180 which made it negative.

Thanks.
 
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