How to correctly identify r and r' in electromagnetics

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The discussion focuses on the correct identification of position vectors r and r' in electromagnetics, particularly in the context of vector calculus. The participant struggles with determining r', often confusing it with the phi unit vector. The correct formulation is established as r' = a * rho unit vector, where rho represents the radial distance and a is a constant. The loop is defined at rho = a and z = 0, indicating the use of cylindrical coordinates for integration.

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This is more of a general problem that I noticed I constantly fail to get right, and seems like something quite basic in vector calculus but it mostly affects me in my electromagnetism class.
Whenever I try to work on a problem that involves figures and objects in space, I am struggling to get the position vectors right.
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It is basically the r' that gives me trouble almost every time.I can solve the rest of the question but for some reason I can't get the r'.

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I can't quite explain my thought process here coherently but the way I see it, r' =phi*phi unit vector because it is the one that mostly defines the shape of the vector. I know this is a faulty logic and is incorrect, but I can't see it any other way (the right answer by the way is r'=a*rho unit vector
 
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r is the point where you want to evaluate A?

r' is then along the loop. The loop is at ##\rho=a## and ##z=0##, so two components in cylindrical coordinates are easy. Phi will vary along the integration path, and it is probably useful to use it as integration variable.
 

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