How to derive a formula for simple harmonic motion?

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To derive formulas for undamped pendulum simple harmonic motion, two approaches are discussed: starting from the middle point and from the extreme point. The solutions provided are s = s0 sin(2 pi f t) for the middle point and s = s0 cos(2 pi f t) for the extreme point. The first solution is easily derived by relating it to circular motion, while the second poses challenges, particularly in understanding the motion's amplitude. A more general solution is suggested, incorporating constants A and B to account for initial conditions at time t=0. This highlights the importance of correctly applying initial values to derive accurate equations for simple harmonic motion.
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Homework Statement


You need to derive a formula for undamped pendulum simple harmonic motion;
1. Starting from the middle point
2. Starting from the extreme point

Homework Equations


The solutions are;
1. s = s0 sin(2 pi f t)
2. s = s0 cos(2 pi f t)

The Attempt at a Solution



I can derive the first answer -- you have to imagine that it is similar to circular motion. But I have difficulties with the second question; I arrive at solution 1-cos(...) because - doesn't it knly move for the difference between radius (full amplitude) and cosine?
 
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Matej Pertot said:

Homework Statement


You need to derive a formula for undamped pendulum simple harmonic motion;
1. Starting from the middle point
2. Starting from the extreme point

Homework Equations


The solutions are;
1. s = s0 sin(2 pi f t)
2. s = s0 cos(2 pi f t)

The Attempt at a Solution



I can derive the first answer -- you have to imagine that it is similar to circular motion. But I have difficulties with the second question; I arrive at solution 1-cos(...) because - doesn't it knly move for the difference between radius (full amplitude) and cosine?

Your relevant equations are not completely general. The equation ##s = s_0 sin(2 \pi f t)## describes motion that starts at ##s = 0## at time ##t=0##. The more general solution is:

##s = A cos(2 \pi f t) + B sin(2 \pi f t) ##

where ##A## and ##B## are constants that have to be chosen based on the value of ##s## at time ##t=0##
 
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