How to Determine Current and Tension in Parallel Wires with Repelling Forces

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The problem involves two long parallel wires with a specified mass per unit length, supported by strings, and carrying currents that cause them to repel each other. The task includes determining the direction of the currents and their magnitudes based on the forces acting on the wires.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the direction of the currents and the relationship between the mass per unit length and the forces acting on the wires. Questions arise regarding how to calculate tension without knowing the total length of the wires, and the relevance of force per unit length in the context of the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest that the problem can be approached using unit lengths, indicating that the mass per unit length provides sufficient information to analyze the forces involved. There is ongoing clarification regarding the relationship between the magnetic force and the current, with no explicit consensus reached on the final approach.

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The problem does not specify the total length of the wires, which raises questions about how to calculate the total weight. Participants are exploring the implications of working with forces per unit length instead.

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Homework Statement


Two long parallel wires, each with a mass per unit length of 40g/m, are supported in a horizontal plane by 6 cm long strings, as shown in the figure below. Each wire carries the same current I, causing the wires to repel each other so that the angle (theta) between the supporting strings is 16 degrees.
a) Are the currents in the same or opposite direction?
b) Determine the magnitude of each current

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Homework Equations


[tex]\Sigma F=ma[/tex]

[tex]B= \frac{\mu_{0}I}{2\pi r}}[/tex]

[tex]F_{b}=BIl[/tex]


The Attempt at a Solution


For a) I know that the current must be in the opposite direction.

For b) I drew a Free Body Diagram first and found that [tex]T_{x}=F_{B} [tex]and these are the same for both wires. <br /> <br /> <b><u>However, how do you find the tension if they don't specify the exact weight of each wire? They do tell you that each of the wires have "a mass per unit length of 40g/m" but how do you convert that to weight if you don't know how long the wires are? Thanks! </u></b>[/tex][/tex]
 
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Since you know the force per unit length, all you need is mass per unit length to solve the problem.
 
marcusl said:
Since you know the force per unit length, all you need is mass per unit length to solve the problem.

Can you elaborate on that please? I still don't get how to solve part b) =/
 
You don't need the total weight of the wires because you can do the whole problem in terms of unit lengths. You know the mass per unit length so you also know the weight (force downwards due to gravity) per unit length. Since the angle is given, you therefore know the component of force per unit length directed between the wires that exactly balances the magnetic force per unit length.

The magnetic force per unit length depends on the current according to the equation you gave,
[tex]F_{b}/l=BI[/tex].
Eliminate B with your equation for B as a function of I, and solve for I.
 

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