How to Find Acceleration and Velocity in a Block and Wedge System

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The discussion focuses on solving for the acceleration and velocity of blocks in a block and wedge system with no friction. The user presents equations derived from Newton's second law but finds discrepancies in their results, suggesting a potential error in their approach or chosen reference frame. They emphasize the need to consider both horizontal and vertical components of acceleration for block B, as it moves on a ramp that is also in motion. The conversation highlights the importance of free body diagrams to set up the correct equations for each block. The user seeks clarification on the reasoning behind the equations and acknowledges the complexity of the system due to the interaction between the blocks.
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Homework Statement



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mA = 22kg
mA = 10kg
No friction
At t = 0, at rest

a.- Find aB
b.- Find vB/A at t = 0.5s


Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution



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I got to the following equations:
mA·aA = mA·g·cos(30) + NB·sin(50)
0 = NA - mA·g·sin(30) - NB·cos(50)

mB·aA·sin(30) = NB - mB·g·cos(20)
mB·aB/A - mB·aA·cos(50) = mB·g·sin(20)

There must be something wrong in these because after solving my results are wrong.
I don't know if I chose the wright base for studying each body (maybe the equations would be simpler with some other base?).

Thanks for your help!
 
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I'm having a little trouble figuring out how you got to those equations - can you tell me a little more of your reasoning?
 
I used Newton's 2nd law and then projected the vectors.
 
It seems to me that you have oversimplified. For starters, the acceleration of block B is going to be partly vertical and partly horizontal. It will not be in the direction of the ramp surface because that surface is falling and moving to the left. I think you need both horizontal and vertical accelerations for both blocks.

I'm thinking of the free body diagrams for A and B. I can write sum of forces = ma in each direction for each block, and get 4 equations with 6 unknowns including the 4 accelerations and the two normal forces.

NBsin(20) = 10aBx horizontal
NBcos(20) - 10g = 10aBy vertical
-NBcos(20) - NAcos(60) = 22aAx horizontal
-NBsin20 - 22g + NBsin(60) = 22aAy

Block A can only accelerate along the ramp so aAy = aAx*tan(30)

Still missing one equation. Must be something to do with B accelerating along its ramp, but it is itself accelerating so awkward to write!
 
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