How to find forces in wires at equilibrium

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To find tensions in suspension wires at equilibrium, the discussion highlights the need for equilibrium equations for moments and forces. The initial matrix derived from the equations had a rank of two, indicating insufficient equations to solve for all forces. By assuming the beam is straight and rigid while allowing for uniform elasticity in the wires, additional relationships between the forces can be established. The revised matrix leads to a solvable system, yielding force values of 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, and 0.4 for the respective wires. This approach effectively resolves the tension calculations in the given scenario.
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I need to find tensions in suspensions wires on the picture:
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I wrote 4 equilibrium equations for moments in A, B, C, D and equilibrium about y-axis, but i got matrix with rank two.

\begin{pmatrix}<br /> 3 &amp; 2 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\<br /> 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 2 &amp; 3 \\<br /> -1 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 2 \\<br /> -2 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 \\<br /> 1 &amp; 1 &amp; 1 &amp; 1<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> F_A \\<br /> F_B \\<br /> F_C \\<br /> F_D<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> =<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 1 \\<br /> 2 \\<br /> 1 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{pmatrix}

How to find the forces?
 
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Yes, there ard only two equations to be had from the usual linear and rotational force balances. To get further, you will need to make assumptions about how the wires and beam deform under loads.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes, there ard only two equations to be had from the usual linear and rotational force balances. To get further, you will need to make assumptions about how the wires and beam deform under loads.
... Specifically, I would suggest taking the beam to be completely straight and rigid, but allow the wires all the same modulus of elasticity. That is enough to get a solution.
 
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\delta_A = \delta_C - 2x\delta_B = \delta_C - x\delta_D = \delta_C + x
Thus,
F_A = \frac{\delta_A SE}{L} = \frac{\delta_C SE}{L} - 2x\frac{SE}{L}

And further,
F_B - F_A = F_C - F_B = F_D - F_C.

Now matrix looks like this:
\begin{pmatrix}<br /> -1 &amp; 2 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 \\<br /> 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 2 &amp; -1 \\<br /> 3 &amp; 2 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\<br /> -1 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 2<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> F_A \\<br /> F_B \\<br /> F_C \\<br /> F_D<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> =<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{pmatrix}

It has solution 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4.
 

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harmyder said:
\delta_A = \delta_C - 2x
\delta_B = \delta_C - x
\delta_D = \delta_C + x
Thus,
F_A = \frac{\delta_A SE}{L} = \frac{\delta_C SE}{L} - 2x\frac{SE}{L}

And further,
F_B - F_A = F_C - F_B = F_D - F_C.

Now matrix looks like this:
\begin{pmatrix}<br /> -1 &amp; 2 &amp; -1 &amp; 0 \\<br /> 0 &amp; -1 &amp; 2 &amp; -1 \\<br /> 3 &amp; 2 &amp; 1 &amp; 0 \\<br /> -1 &amp; 0 &amp; 1 &amp; 2<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> F_A \\<br /> F_B \\<br /> F_C \\<br /> F_D<br /> \end{pmatrix}<br /> =<br /> \begin{pmatrix}<br /> 0 \\<br /> 0 \\<br /> 1 \\<br /> 1<br /> \end{pmatrix}

It has solution 0.1, 0.2, 0.3, 0.4.
That's the answer I get.
 
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