How to find the deceleration of a mass colliding on a spring?

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To find the deceleration of a mass colliding with a spring, the kinetic energy of the mass before the collision can be equated to the potential energy of the spring and the kinetic energy of the mass at any point during the collision. The relevant equations involve using Newton's second law (F = ma) alongside the spring force equation (F = -kx). The discussion highlights the challenge of determining the mass's position over time and finding its acceleration, indicating a need for calculus and knowledge of simple harmonic motion. A suggested approach is to use the solution format x = A sin(ωt) for modeling the motion. Properly defining variables with subscripts is also emphasized for clarity in calculations.
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Homework Statement
A known mass at a know velocity collides on a spring of known stiffness. What is the equation that governs the deceleration of the mass, so that the force on the spring could be found?
Relevant Equations
1/2 m*V^2 = 1/2*k*x^2 + 1/2*m*(Vo)^2

Kinetic energy of mass before collision = Potential energy of spring at an instance + Kinetic energy of mass at the same instance
Problem Statement: A known mass at a know velocity collides on a spring of known stiffness. What is the equation that governs the deceleration of the mass, so that the force on the spring could be found?
Relevant Equations: 1/2 m*V^2 = 1/2*k*x^2 + 1/2*m*(Vo)^2

Kinetic energy of mass before collision = Potential energy of spring at an instance + Kinetic energy of mass at the same instance

I am creating a simple mathematical model to understand the impact of a moving object on a sprung system:

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As you can find, I am able to find the velocity of the object at any 'x' value after collision. I am also able to figure out the max. 'x' value by equating kinetic energy of the mass on RHS of the equation to zero. I am unable to find out the following though:

1. How to find the position of mass x W.R.R. time?
2. Vo is (dx / dt). I want the acceleration (d2x/dt2). I am out of touch with calculus for a very long time, adding to the fact that maths is my weak subject.

Can someone help me finding the above two points pl.?
 
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How to find the position of mass x W.R.R. time"
You use Newton: ##F = ma ## in combination with the (ideal) spring equation ##F = - kx##
 
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BvU said:
You use Newton: ##F = ma ## in combination with the (ideal) spring equation ##F = - kx##
But I don't know either acceleration or x. All I know is the time t.
 
Hint: F=##\text{m} d^2 x/dt^2 =\text{-kx} ##
 
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k.udhay said:
I am out of touch with calculus for a very long time
Then you are unlikely to be able to solve the differential equation. Have you heard of simple harmonic motion?
Plug in the solution ##x=A\sin(\omega t)##, where A and ω are unknown constants and see what happens.

By the way, your use of v and v0 is confusing. Usual is to have the unsubscripted form for the generic variable and the subscript to denote a particular value of it.
 
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haruspex said:
Then you are unlikely to be able to solve the differential equation. Have you heard of simple harmonic motion?
Plug in the solution ##x=A\sin(\omega t)##, where A and ω are unknown constants and see what happens.

By the way, your use of v and v0 is confusing. Usual is to have the unsubscripted form for the generic variable and the subscript to denote a particular value of it.
Yes, I later realized I should have given the subscripts correctly.
 
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