How to find the electric field coming from a sphere WITHOUT using Gauss' law?

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The discussion revolves around determining the electric field at a point above the center of a charged spherical shell without employing Gauss' law. Participants are exploring the implications of symmetry and integration in the context of electrostatics.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the need to integrate over the surface of the sphere and consider the symmetry of the problem to simplify calculations. There are inquiries about the appropriate coordinate system and the expression for the electric field's radial component. Some participants question the applicability of the shell theorem in this context.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing initial thoughts on integration and symmetry. There is a mix of ideas regarding the use of the shell theorem, and no consensus has been reached yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants are operating under the constraint of not using Gauss' law, which influences their approach to finding the electric field. There is an emphasis on understanding the symmetry of the charge distribution.

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Homework Statement



How do I find the electric field at a point above the center of a charged sphere? Assume the sphere is a shell.

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I know there will only be a z component to the electric field, because x and y components will cancel by symmetry. I think the process will have to involve integrating over the surface of the sphere. Where do I start?

More things I know (or think I know):
dq = σdA
The dA terms will point radially from the sphere.
 
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I think the process will have to involve integrating over the surface of the sphere. Where do I start?
With a coordinate system, and with an expression for the radial component of the electric field as function of the distance to your charge.
You can use symmetry to reduce the two-dimensional integral to a one-dimensional integral quickly.
 
Can you use shell theorem to just treat it as a point charge, as long as the charge is symmetrically distributed?
 
That would be the result of Gauß' law ;).
 

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