How to hold a relay for 5 seconds

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The discussion revolves around the challenge of connecting a relay to a 12VDC power source that operates in 1-second intervals, with the requirement that the relay remains activated for 5 seconds after the signal light turns off. Participants explore potential solutions, including the use of capacitors and timers, while considering the implications of different relay types.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a capacitor but is unsure of the required value for the application.
  • Another participant notes that 5 seconds is a long duration for an RC circuit and recommends considering 555 timer circuits for a more reliable solution.
  • A suggestion is made to look for ready-made time delay relays available online.
  • One participant shares their experience using CMOS 555 timers with tantalum capacitors for extended durations, indicating that accuracy was not critical for their application.
  • Concerns are raised about the availability of a continuous 12V source, questioning whether the relay can function properly if power is only available when the signal light is on.
  • Another participant advises against using a latching relay due to complications with reversing voltage in the coils, suggesting that this could complicate the design.
  • There is a proposal to use a capacitor to provide constant power to a 555 timer at a low frequency, although the feasibility of this approach is not fully explored.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing opinions on the use of latching relays and the feasibility of using capacitors versus timers. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to achieve the desired relay behavior.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not reached a consensus on the most effective solution, and there are uncertainties regarding the power supply conditions and the specific requirements for the relay operation.

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Hey everyone

I got a problem. There is a line that provides 12VDC power in 1 second intervals (On and then Off, yes a signal light). The thing is I want to connect a relay to it but the relay must not turn off and on with the signal light.

I was thinking of using a capacitor but I don't know the value to buy.

And I need the simplest way possible.

Signal On -> Relay On
Signal Off -> Relay On
Signal On -> Relay On
--Switches off Signal light 5 seconds later---
Signal Off -> Relay Off

I hope you'll understand what I'm saying
 
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5 seconds is a bit long for an RC circuit, you would have to make sure the leakage is very low.
Take a look at 555 timer circuits unless you really need a solution that costs a cent.
 
chirantha7777 said:
Hey everyone

I got a problem. There is a line that provides 12VDC power in 1 second intervals (On and then Off, yes a signal light). The thing is I want to connect a relay to it but the relay must not turn off and on with the signal light.

I was thinking of using a capacitor but I don't know the value to buy.

And I need the simplest way possible.

Signal On -> Relay On
Signal Off -> Relay On
Signal On -> Relay On
--Switches off Signal light 5 seconds later---
Signal Off -> Relay Off

I hope you'll understand what I'm saying

Can you use a latching relay?
 
I've used the CMOS 555 timers to go out about 10 minutes using tantalum capacitors. The application wasn't that important to require accuracy any better than about +/- 30 seconds. As far as I know, the thing has been running 24-7 since 1995.
 
Wait, we may be a little presumptuous here... Do you have another source of 12V available? If you don't, the relay won't beable to supply power!
 
I would highly recommend NOT using a latching relay. I recently tried using them for one of my projects and the technical problem of reversing the voltage in the coils to switch/unswitch is definitely not worth it.

Is power only available when the signal light is on, or does it just flash on it's own? If power is being cut during the light's off stage than the 555 timer would constantly be turned off. Maybe you could use a capacitor to provide constant power to a 555 at .2 Hz?
 

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