How to measure the length of metal sheet coil?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around finding an accurate equation to measure the length of a metal sheet coil, which is described as resembling a roll of tape. Participants explore various formulas and approaches to calculate the length based on the coil's dimensions, including outer diameter, inner diameter, and thickness.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents two formulas for calculating the length of the coil but expresses uncertainty about their accuracy.
  • Another participant questions the origin of the formulas and whether they were derived by the original poster.
  • A participant suggests using integration and first principles to gain a better understanding of the problem.
  • Another participant provides a derivation of the area of the metal at the end of the roll and proposes a formula for length based on that area.
  • A later reply introduces an alternative formula involving the square root of the difference between the outer and inner diameters, multiplied by π and the number of turns, while noting considerations for insulation thickness.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the best formula to use, and multiple competing views and approaches remain present throughout the discussion.

Contextual Notes

Some formulas depend on specific assumptions about the coil's dimensions and the materials involved, and there are unresolved questions regarding the derivation and applicability of the proposed equations.

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Hi everyone,

I have been trying to find an equation to measure the length of a coil. The coil is a metal sheet that wraps around the loops as it creates. It looks like a roll of tape. I have been using two different formula, but it is not giving me the right results.

1. L = 0.065449 (OD^2 - ID^2) / T; where OD is the outer diameter, ID the inner diameter, and T the thickness of the sheet.

2. L = ((ID + OD)/2 X 3.14 * # of wraps on the coil )/12.

I am not sure if I am using the right formula, but can some please give me a hint on this?

Thank you
 
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Where did you get those equations? Did you derive them?
 
Hi Dr. D.

Those are found online. Both formulas takes the number in inches, and convert them in feet.
 
To get a better result andto gain more understanding, try working the problem from first principles using integration.
 
qnikchen said:
... where OD is the outer diameter, ID the inner diameter, and T the thickness of the sheet.

The area of metal at the end of the roll is; Area = (π * (OD/2)2) – (π * (ID/2)2)
Therefore, Area = π/4 * ( OD2 – ID2 )

The length of the coil will be Area / T
Therefore, Length = π/4 * ( OD2 – ID2 ) / T

The 0.065449 in your first equation is π/4, divided by twelve to convert from inches to feet.
 
qnikchen said:
Hi everyone,

I have been trying to find an equation to measure the length of a coil. The coil is a metal sheet that wraps around the loops as it creates. It looks like a roll of tape. I have been using two different formula, but it is not giving me the right results.

1. L = 0.065449 (OD^2 - ID^2) / T; where OD is the outer diameter, ID the inner diameter, and T the thickness of the sheet.

2. L = ((ID + OD)/2 X 3.14 * # of wraps on the coil )/12.

I am not sure if I am using the right formula, but can some please give me a hint on this?

Thank you
L=[square root (OD^2 - ID^2)] x PI x turns

turns= (OR-IR)/foil thickness
Remember that most foil coils do have a foil of insolation parallell with the copper foil (If it is intended to be an inductor. So foil thickness should be both combined.

Vidar
 

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