How to measure the temperature of liquid in sealed container

In summary, the conversation discusses using a stainless steel container in a bain marie to heat up liquid and fruit for making flavored vodkas. The maximum temperature that the container can reach is 165 degrees Fahrenheit, and the temperature within the container will also be 165 degrees if it is consistently heated at this temperature. However, increasing the pressure by reducing the volume can cause the temperature to rise even further. The goal is to find the optimal balance of liquid and gas within the container to achieve a desired temperature without exceeding the external temperature of 165 degrees.
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Pyotr
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I am not a scientist or particularly good with math or formulas. I have been curious about this for a while, and would appreciate anyone clarifying/correcting me.

I have a stainless steel container that can be heated up to 75 degrees celcius/165 degrees Fahrenheit in a bain marie. It can hold one liter of liquid (that is the maximum fill line) although I have not measured the total volume of the container. I can get that later today.

I am aware that heating a sealed container with a mix of liquid and air, and perhaps if it is 100% liquid or 100% air, will explode if done at a high enough temperature. I would like to avoid this. :)

My understanding is that when you heat a sealed container, for the sake of the argument let's say it's 50% water and 50% gas, that the pressure increases. I am also under the impression that as the pressure increases, the temperature of the liquid and gas within the canister increases as well.

What I want to know is this: If I put this canister in a bain marie at a consistent 165 degrees, what is the temperature within the container over time? I'm assuming that as the pressure builds within the container, the temperature is going up, so even if the outside of the container and the water in the bain marie is a consistent 165 degrees, the temperature within is going higher and higher with the pressure.

To explain the practical purpose of this, I'm trying to make flavored vodkas with rasberries, strawberries, etc. I'd like to be able to heat the vodka and fruit in the sealed container to something like 225 or 250 degrees Fahrenheit for a set time, without exceeding the external temperature of 165 degrees. The problem is I have no idea what the internal temperature is. I can adjust the balance of liquid and gas within the container up or down, to whatever is optimal.

Any help is appreciated - and if any of my assumptions/facts are wrong I apologize.
 
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Pyotr said:
If I put this canister in a bain marie at a consistent 165 degrees, what is the temperature within the container over time?
165 degrees F exactly. That is the equilibrium temperature, and if you start lower it will never go above that.
Pyotr said:
I am also under the impression that as the pressure increases, the temperature of the liquid and gas within the canister increases as well.
This is only an additional effect if you increase the pressure by reducing the volume, otherwise it is taken into account already.
 
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so what temperature will it reach?
 
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Pyotr said:
so what temperature will it reach?
165F exactly.

You're describing something circular/backwards: you are raising the pressure by raising the temperature, which is not the same as raising the temperature by raising the pressure.
 

1. How do I measure the temperature of liquid in a sealed container?

The most accurate way to measure the temperature of liquid in a sealed container is by using a thermometer. Make sure the thermometer is clean and free of any residue before inserting it into the container.

2. Can I use a regular thermometer to measure the temperature of liquid in a sealed container?

Yes, you can use a regular thermometer to measure the temperature of liquid in a sealed container. However, it is important to ensure that the thermometer is long enough to reach the liquid inside the container.

3. Is there a way to measure the temperature of liquid in a sealed container without opening it?

Yes, there are non-invasive methods for measuring the temperature of liquid in a sealed container. These include using infrared thermometers or thermal imaging cameras which can measure the temperature without coming into contact with the liquid.

4. How long should I wait before taking the temperature of liquid in a sealed container?

You should wait at least 5-10 minutes before taking the temperature of liquid in a sealed container. This will allow the temperature to equalize throughout the container and give you a more accurate reading.

5. Can I measure the temperature of liquid in a sealed container while it is in the freezer or refrigerator?

It is not recommended to measure the temperature of liquid in a sealed container while it is in the freezer or refrigerator. The extreme temperatures can affect the accuracy of the measurement and may also cause the container to crack or break.

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