How to modify a power function?

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The discussion revolves around finding the parameters a and b in the power function y = ax^b using two ordered pairs. Participants are exploring how to manipulate the equations derived from these pairs to isolate the variables.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss substituting ordered pairs into the power function to create equations. There is an attempt to express one variable in terms of the other using logarithmic properties. Questions arise regarding how to handle multiple equations and the implications of using more than two points.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing suggestions on how to manipulate the equations to find a and b. Some guidance is offered on dividing equations to simplify the problem. There is also a consideration of averaging values when multiple pairs are used, indicating an exploration of the implications of experimental error.

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Participants are working under the constraints of having only two ordered pairs and are discussing the potential variability in the values of a and b when more pairs are considered. There is an acknowledgment of the challenges posed by experimental error in a lab context.

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Homework Statement



Let's say I have 2 ordered pairs. I want to find the the a and b in the function. How would I do that?

Homework Equations


y=ax^b


The Attempt at a Solution


y/a=x^b
b=log(y/a)/logx

But now I have 2 variables. How would I find those variables?
 
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SHRock said:

Homework Statement



Let's say I have 2 ordered pairs. I want to find the the a and b in the function. How would I do that?

Homework Equations


y=ax^b


The Attempt at a Solution


y/a=x^b
b=log(y/a)/logx

But now I have 2 variables. How would I find those variables?

Substitute the points you have into your equation. Then you will have two equations in the two unknowns, a and b.
 
Mark44 said:
Substitute the points you have into your equation. Then you will have two equations in the two unknowns, a and b.

Yeah but the problem is I don't know how to reduce that.

Let's say I pick 2 points

(35,0.01)
(4.5,30)

so the functions will be

b=log(0.01/a)/log 35

b=log(30/a)log4.5
 
Let's go back to the original equation, y = axb

Using your points, we have
.01 = a * 35b
30 = a* 4.5b

Dividing the first equation by the second, we have
.01/30 = 35b/4.5b = (35/4.5)b

Can you solve that for b? Once you get b, then use either equation to find a.
 
Mark44 said:
Let's go back to the original equation, y = axb

Using your points, we have
.01 = a * 35b
30 = a* 4.5b

Dividing the first equation by the second, we have
.01/30 = 35b/4.5b = (35/4.5)b

Can you solve that for b? Once you get b, then use either equation to find a.

Oh ok thanks I get it. Now another little questions. Let's say if I do this for multiple ordered pairs. And a and b aren't always the same, but pretty close. Should get the average of those and plug it in as b? Because this is like a lab and error will occur.
 

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