How to Prove Vectors are Perpendicular Using Dot Products

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To prove that non-zero vectors a and b are perpendicular if and only if |a-b|=|a+b|, the dot product method is employed. The derivation shows that |a-b|^2 equals |a+b|^2 leads to the conclusion that -cosX=cosX, indicating that cosX must be zero, which occurs at 90 degrees. This confirms that vectors a and b are perpendicular. Additionally, the discussion explains that a parallelogram is a rectangle if its diagonals are equal, linking back to the initial proof about the vectors. The importance of clear mathematical communication is emphasized, suggesting that mathematical expressions should be explained in words for better understanding.
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Hello I was doing some study for a maths test involving vectors when I came across this question:

For non zero vectors show that: |a-b|=|a+b| if and only if a and b are perpendicular.
Deduce that a parallelogram is a rectangle if and only if its diagonals are equal in length.


I did the first question using dot products:

|a-b|=|a+b|
|a-b|^2=|a+b|^2
(a-b).(a.b)=(a+b).(a+b)
|a|^2+|b|^2-2|a||b|cosX=|a|^2+|b|^2+2|a||b|cosX
-2|a||b|cosX=+2|a||b|cosX
-cosX=cosX
Therefore cosX=0
x=90, 270, 480...etc.
Thus vector a and vector b must be perpendicular for|a-b|=|a+b| to be valid.

I'm not sure if this way is correct though...

Could someone please check if the stuff that I've done above is right? Also, could I get some help doing the second part of teh question? Thank you it will be much apprechiated.
 
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1. A-B = (A_{x} - B_{x}, A_{y}-B_{y}) and

A+B = (A_{x} + B_{x}, A_{y}+B_{y})

If A and B are perpendicular, then A \bullet B = 0 or A_{x}B_{x} + A_{y}B_{y} = 0

You also know that (A_{x}-B_{x})^{2} +(A_{y}-B_{y})^{2} = (A_{x}+B_{x})^{2} +(A_{y}+B_{y})^{2}

So how would you go from there?For the second question use the parallelogram law (i.e. proof of the commutative law of vector addition)
 
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Ah, so you expand and simplify:
(A_{x}-B_{x})^{2} +(A_{y}-B_{y})^{2} = (A_{x}+B_{x})^{2} +(A_{y}+B_{y})^{2}, which eventually equals:
A_{x}B_{x} + A_{y}B_{y} = 0
Thus proving that A is perpendicular to B, and that |a-b|=|a+b|is only true under this circumstance. (I'm still a little unsure about the formal wording at the end of the proof)

The second question about the parallelogram, is basically asking to prove the first question. What does the word "deduce" ask you to do?
 
So draw a parallelogram and let |a-b| be one diagonal and |a+b| be another diagonal. You know that they are equal if a and b are perpendicular. Thus we have a rectangle. QED
 
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I understand now. Thank you for your help and quick response.
 
finkeroid99 said:
I did the first question using dot products:

|a-b|=|a+b|
|a-b|^2=|a+b|^2
(a-b).(a.b)=(a+b).(a+b)
|a|^2+|b|^2-2|a||b|cosX=|a|^2+|b|^2+2|a||b|cosX
-2|a||b|cosX=+2|a||b|cosX
-cosX=cosX
Therefore cosX=0
x=90, 270, 480...etc.
Thus vector a and vector b must be perpendicular for|a-b|=|a+b| to be valid.

Use words. Maths should not be presented as a series of symbols without any link between them. It will do you good and your teachers. There is also no need to invoke cos at all: just leave it as a.b.
 
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