How to Solve for the Magnetic Field of a Bar Magnet?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around calculating the magnetic field of a bar magnet, specifically in the context of a laboratory setup involving a series of magnets. The original poster seeks to mathematically explain the magnetic field generated by a configuration that can be approximated as a magnetic dipole.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to use an analogy with a loop dipole but encounters difficulties related to the separation of the poles. Some participants suggest considering the system as analogous to an electric dipole. Others express the need to clarify the treatment of the magnetic poles as point monopoles rather than continuous distributions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different analogies and mathematical representations. The original poster has derived a formula for the magnetic field but is uncertain about the application of certain variables, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of constraints regarding the treatment of magnetic poles and the desire to avoid using loop area in the calculations. The original poster expresses frustration over the complexity of the problem and the need for foundational understanding.

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Homework Statement



I have a problem in my upper div. lab which uses a series of magnets to make a magnetic field. I need to explain the field in some way to show what we did mathmatically. The set up can basically be considered as a magnetic dipole with two mono poles due to insulators.

.._B_
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Help me solve for B in some way

Homework Equations



B = uM + H ?

The Attempt at a Solution



Tried to do it by approximation of a loop dipole analogy but it was seperating the length of the poles not the width between them. Any help even just to get started will be appriecated I've tried for soooo long to get any results
 
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I'm not entirely clear on what you're asking, but perhaps you could consider making an analogy to an electric dipole - basically just treat it as two monopoles separated by a certain distance.
 
sorry, I'm trying to figure out the generalized equations for the magnetic field above a physical dipole. I was trying to clarify that i was ignoring the fact that the poles were continuous and wanted to treat them as point poles in a sense. i'll try the electrical analogy and see if it works thank you.
 
ok so i got B = (u0/4π)(1/r^3)[3(m*rhat)rhat - m] but i still can't use m for this because m is IA and i don't want loop area i want area between the tops of two different loops. Halp
 

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