How to Solve Functional Inequality with Multiple Unknowns?

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The discussion focuses on solving the functional inequality f(x) ≤ 25/2 for the variable 'a' in a quadratic function. The key result is that the maximum value of the function occurs when a = 1/2, leading to the conclusion that a must be less than or equal to 1/2. Participants discuss methods to eliminate the variable x and the significance of determining whether the value is a maximum or minimum. The formula for finding the maximum or minimum value of a quadratic function, -B²/4A + C, is referenced, with some participants seeking clarification on its derivation. Ultimately, the problem is resolved, and the solution is confirmed as a ≤ 1/2.
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Given http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/attachments/f33/20928d1298610998-function-msp281219ebge8he857gc6900005ba9285dff0f5h79.gif , find the values of ''a'' for which the value of the function f(x) <= 25/2.

The answer is a<= 1/2.

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I have no ideas how to eliminate the x, i can't solve it cause there are 2 unknown in one inequality...
 

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Hi Michael! :smile:

(have an leq: ≤ and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)
Michael_Light said:
… find the values of ''a'' for which the value of the function f(x) <= 25/2.

I have no ideas how to eliminate the x, i can't solve it cause there are 2 unknown in one inequality...

It means find a such that the maximum value of f(x) is 25/2.

Hint: complete the square :wink:
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi Michael! :smile:

(have an leq: ≤ and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)


It means find a such that the maximum value of f(x) is 25/2.

Hint: complete the square :wink:


How do you know that it is a maximum but not minimum? :confused: By letting the maximum of f(x) = 25/2, i got a=1/2, what should i do next?
 
Michael_Light said:
By letting the maximum of f(x) = 25/2, i got a=1/2, what should i do next?

That sounds like an answer. :confused:

How did you get it?

Doesn't the way you got it tell you whether it's a maximum or minimum?
 


tiny-tim said:
Hi Michael! :smile:

(have an leq: ≤ and try using the X2 icon just above the Reply box :wink:)


It means find a such that the maximum value of f(x) is 25/2.

Hint: complete the square :wink:


I mean... how do you know that it is a maximum value before you find ''a''? and does f(x) <= 25/2
indicates that the maximum/minimum value of f(x) is smaller or equal than 25/2? Thanks.:smile:
 
I've no idea what you've done. :confused:
Michael_Light said:
… i got a=1/2 …

how did you get a = 1/2 ?
 


tiny-tim said:
I've no idea what you've done. :confused:how did you get a = 1/2 ?

Max/min value of f(x), i.e -b2/4a + c = 25/2 and solve it...
 
Michael_Light said:
Max/min value of f(x), i.e -b2/4a + c = 25/2 ...

Is this just a formula that you've learned from somewhere, or do you know how to prove it?
 


tiny-tim said:
Is this just a formula that you've learned from somewhere, or do you know how to prove it?

By solving
MSP659519ebhe4f2eegd5i0000041fh743830baidh5.gif
.. i managed to get a=1/2, but yet the answer is a<= 1/2... i don't know why a <= 1/2...
 
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Do you know how to prove this formula??

Where did you get it from? :confused:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Do you know how to prove this formula??

Where did you get it from? :confused:

From http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-help/attachments/f33/20928d1298610998-function-msp281219ebge8he857gc6900005ba9285dff0f5h79.gif , we get f(x)=(a-1)x2+(4a+3)x+(4a-2)... where A represents (a-1), B represents (4a+3) and C represents (4a-2)... so -B2/4A + C = maximum/minimum value of f(x)...
 
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Michael_Light said:
From … we get f(x)=(a-1)x2+(4a+3)x+(4a-2)... where A represents (a-1), B represents (4a+3) and C represents (4a-2)... so -B2/4A + C = maximum/minimum value of f(x)...

Yes, I know you can apply the formula (-B2/4A + C), but can you prove it?

Where did you get it from?
 
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tiny-tim said:
Yes, I know you can apply the formula (-B2/4A + C), but can you prove it?

Where did you get it from?

From my reference book. :biggrin:
 
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ok then! :smile:

take the equation ax2 + bx + c = 0 and complete the square …

what do you get? :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
ok then! :smile:

take the equation ax2 + bx + c = 0 and complete the square …

what do you get? :smile:

Someone clarified it for me... I managed to solve it now... Thanks for your time and patient.. :biggrin:
 
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