How to Synthesize N-Ethylethanamide?

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The discussion revolves around the synthesis of N-ethylethanamide, exploring various synthetic routes and methodologies. Participants propose different starting materials and reactions, considering limitations on the types of reactions allowed.

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  • Some participants suggest starting with ethanoyl chloride and ethyl amine as synthons for the synthesis.
  • Others propose beginning with pentane and using bromination or chlorination, followed by oxidation and transamination processes.
  • One participant outlines a multi-step synthesis involving ethane, ethanol, ethanal, and ammonia to produce N-ethylethanamide, but acknowledges potential inefficiencies.
  • Another participant critiques the linear approach of the proposed synthesis, suggesting a more efficient parallel method involving propane and halogenation.
  • Some participants mention the use of photochemical irradiation to produce ethyl bromide, which can be hydrolyzed or treated with cyanide to yield acetic acid.
  • One participant notes strict limitations on allowed reactions, excluding methods like Hoffmann degradation and trans-acylation, prompting a reevaluation of proposed methods.
  • Several participants discuss halogenation, elimination, and nucleophilic substitution as potential steps in the synthesis, with some expressing uncertainty about regioselectivity issues.
  • A simpler alternative is proposed involving bromo-ethane and nitrile to produce propanoic acid, which can then react with ethyl amine to form N-ethylethanamide.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on a single synthetic route, with multiple competing views and methods presented throughout the discussion. Some participants express agreement with each other's suggestions, while others highlight limitations and challenges in the proposed methods.

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Participants mention limitations on the types of reactions that can be used, which affects the proposed synthetic routes. There are also unresolved issues regarding the efficiency and regioselectivity of certain steps in the synthesis.

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hey

what is the synthesis of N-ethylethanamide...need the equations

(begin from the appropriate alkane, and any organic reactant can be used such as HCl, water and so forth)

thank you!
 
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You can retro to find the synthons ethanoyl chloride and ethyl amine and go on from there. There are many possibilities.
 
perhaps you can start with pentane and find a way to brominate/chlorinate on the second carbon. Or if you can start with 3-pentene, you can oxidize with permanganate, separate the two components. Transamine the higher boiling point carboxyl and perform a hoffmann degradation, convert the lower boiling point carboxyl to an its acyl chloride. Not quite sure, movies should be able to help you out better with this problem.
 
got it?

hello..

can u please chk if this might work or how it can be improved

1) ethane > ethanol > ethanal > ethanoic acid + ammonia = ethanamide >
ethanamide + ethanol = N-ethylethanamide

thanks :smile:
 
The logic seems a bit fuzzy. First of your proposal is a bit inefficient, you'll lose yield in each step so you should limited the amount of steps or even use them in parallel fashion.

That is you've got everything in a completely linear/series fashion. For instance, find a way to make ethanoyl chloride and ethyl amine separately, or even more efficiently. I've not nothing at this moment...nothing that comes to mind. For instance, start with propane, halogenate the propane, and oxidize to the carboxylic acid. Separate, trans-acyl one mixture and trans-aminate the other. Perform a hoffman degradation (you should look this up) on the amide mixture, and then subsequently combine the mixtures.

You should be able to obtain the terminal propanol/oxidized product quite easily (allyl cation).

propane \xrightarrow~ chloro-propane \xrightarrow~ propanoic acid

synthon 1
propanoic acid \xrightarrow~ethanoyl chloride
synthon 2
propanoic acid \xrightarrow~ propanamide \xrightarrow~ ethyl amine

combine the two
C2H6C0Cl + C2H5NH2 \xrightarrow~ N-ethylethanamide

There's probably a better way
 
GCT has gone a long way, I too think that starting with ethane and applying photochemical irradiation to get ethyl bromide, which will either by hydrolyzed to give ethanol (to acetic acid) or treated with cyanide and hydrolyzed to give acetic acid. This can be further treated with thionyl chloride to give acetyl chloride, which will then be reacted with ethylamine to give the product you need.

Ethylamine can be prepared from already synthesized ethyl bromide and ammonia, by employing a much more amount of ammonia, or as GCT said, a Hoffmann degradation would be much more convenient from propionamide (propyl chloride+ammonia-->ethylamide).

My post became the repeating of GCT's first post, so I'm saying I agree with him.
 
i agree...but I am not allowed to use Hoffmann degradation or "trans-acyl one mixture and trans-aminate the other."

im only allowed to use halogenation, hydration, hydrohalogenation, addition, substitution, and combustion...just the basic stuff...im sry i didnt mention it before

so..if u guys want to re-evaluate your/my method or think of other possibilities..

thanks a bunch ppl
 
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Hi,

you've got some pretty strict limitations here. Well, I can give you a general sugestion at the moment. I'll reply later if I come up with better suggestions.

First,


ethane--->chloro-ethane--->ethene-->addition to 1,2 chloro-ethene--->ethyne--->acetaldehyde--->alpha-bromo-acetaldehyde--->propanal

For ethyl amine

-Brominate ethane, and simply add ammonia under proper conditions.

Final step

You'll probably have to modify the propanal, anyways, you can combine the propanal derivative with the ethyl amine through nucloephilic substitution to obtain you final product.

I'll have to do some research on this. This is probably not the best way
 
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First,


ethane--->chloro-ethane--->ethene-->addition to 1,2 chloro-ethene--->ethyne--->acetaldehyde--->alpha-bromo-acetaldehyde--->propanal

halogenation of alkane, elimination, addition to alkene, elimination, hydration of alkyne (using mercury derivative), halogenation, SN2 substitution

Some of the steps have some regioselective issues associated with it, other's in this forum will probably be able to help you out on the specifics, if a better proposal is not suggested.
 
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The following is much simpler,however a bit outside the measures you specified.

ethane--->bromo-ethane--->CN-Et--->propanoic acid

You can obtain ethyl amine from either bromo-ethane or CN-Et

propanoic acid and ethyl amine--->N-ethylethanamide
 
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ethane--->bromo-ethane--->CN-Et--->propanoic acid

halogenation of an alkane, SN2 substitution with CN- as the nucleophile, hydrolysis of the nitrile
 
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hello tutor..

thanku for ur help...ive got it!
 

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