How to transforn words into math in this proof

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The discussion revolves around proving a property of a set derived from another set in the context of group theory. Specifically, it involves transforming verbal reasoning into mathematical expressions regarding the minimum of a set.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the maximum of group A and the minimum of group B, questioning how to express this relationship mathematically. There are attempts to clarify the properties of the elements in group B based on the properties of group A.

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Participants are actively engaging with each other's reasoning, with some offering guidance on how to express the relationships mathematically. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the definitions and properties of the groups involved, but no consensus has been reached regarding the proof itself.

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There is an assumption that the groups are ordered, and participants are discussing the implications of this ordering on the elements of the sets. Some members express uncertainty about the definitions and properties being used in the proof.

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i am given group A which its maximum is 5

b={-a;a of group A}
prove that the minimum of b is -5
??

i know that in group b we switch the sign of the members of group "a"

the biggest member in group "a" is the minimum of group "b"

so the minimum of "b" must be -5

how to transform this into math??
 
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Hi transgalactic! :smile:

(i assume it's an ordered group)

-5 is a member of B.

Let c be any other member of B.

Then … ? :smile:
 
then 5 is a member of "a"

??
 
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But what can you say about c? :smile:
 
in group B
C>-5

??
 
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transgalactic said:
in group B
C>-5

??

(did the forum go off-line for a time, or was that just my computer? :redface:)

Yes (or maybe ≥) … so you can write:

for any c ε B, c ≥ -5 …

and that is the way you "transform this into math", as you were asking for! :smile:
 
how it proves that the minimum of group B is C ??
 

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