How to write matrices as tensors

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The discussion focuses on the conversion of matrices to tensors, specifically addressing the equivalence of matrix equations and tensor notation. The first example confirms that the matrix addition of vectors corresponds to the tensor notation with indices. The second example raises questions about the correct representation of contravariant and covariant indices, with clarification that the expression can be correctly written using the appropriate tensor notation. Additionally, there is a discussion about the equivalence of a tensor expression and its matrix form, concluding that the tensor cannot be accurately represented in matrix form as initially suggested. Understanding the distinctions between contravariant and covariant vectors is emphasized throughout the conversation.
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I have some simple questions on how to write matrices as tensors.

1.
<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}a_1\\a_2\end{array}\right)+<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}b_1\\b_2\end{array}\right)=<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}c_1\\c_2\end{array}\right)<br />

is this equivalent to

A^j + B^j = C^j

with j = 1,2.

2.

<br /> 1/2\left(\begin{array}{cc}\dot{x}_1 &amp; \dot{x}_2\end{array}\right)<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}3m &amp; m\\-m &amp; 3m\end{array}\right)<br /> \left(\begin{array}{cc}\dot{x}_1 \\\dot{x}_2\end{array}\right)<br />

is this equivalent to

<br /> 1/2\dot{x}^{\mu}M_{\mu\nu}\dot{x}^{\nu}<br />

<br /> \mu,\nu=1,2<br />

and

<br /> M_{11}=3m,...,M_{22}=3m<br />
 
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Yes,it's correct in the first case.In the second,u may put it

\frac{1}{2}\dot{x}_{\mu}M^{\mu}{}_{\nu} \dot{x}^{\nu}

Daniel.
 
thanks.

Is my 2 wrong?
Im struggling with the contravariant and covariant indicies.
is it because a row vector is a covariant vector and the column vector is a contravariant vector you write it like that...but that can't be right.


another question:
If you have an expression like

<br /> A^{ijk}B_k<br />

i,j,k = 1,2

this is equivalent to 4 expressions

<br /> A^{111}B_1 + A^{112}B_2<br />

<br /> A^{121}B_1 + A^{122}B_2<br />

<br /> A^{211}B_1 + A^{212}B_2<br />

<br /> A^{221}B_1 + A^{222}B_2<br />
 
Nope,it's just

A^{ij1}B_{1}+A^{ij2}B_{2}

,that is a second rank double contravariant tensor with 4 components,the ones you have written.

Daniel.
 
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ok...ty.

2 again.

if you have a tensor

1/2\dot{x}^{\mu}M_{\mu\nu}\dot{x}^{\nu}

\mu,\nu=1,2

M_{11}=3m,...,M_{22}=3m

and write it as a matrix you _dont_ get

1/2\left(\begin{array}{cc}\dot{x}_1 &amp; \dot{x}_2\end{array}\right)\left(\begin{array}{cc}3m &amp; m\\-m &amp; 3m\end{array}\right)\left(\begin{array}{cc}\dot{x}_1 \\\dot{x}_2\end{array}\right)

?
 
Nope.You can't put that expression in matrix form.

Daniel.
 
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