I built a 3 stage PWM solar charger using an arduino

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The discussion centers around a three-stage PWM solar charger built using an Arduino. Participants share their thoughts on the design, functionality, and potential applications of the charger, as well as considerations regarding battery types and charging methods. The scope includes technical explanations, conceptual clarifications, and exploratory reasoning related to solar energy systems and battery management.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses enthusiasm for the project and suggests documenting it well for future employment opportunities, recommending the addition of a web-accessible data log for monitoring energy conversion and battery condition.
  • Another participant assumes that Rsc is the current limit and discusses the importance of staying below the gassing voltage for lead-acid batteries, noting potential issues with prolonged float charging.
  • A participant raises the question of whether the creator is interested in charging other battery types, highlighting the complexity of battery management and suggesting resources for further information.
  • One participant shares insights from their reading on lead-acid battery management, mentioning that UPS systems maintain a constant float voltage and can last many years without damage if properly controlled.
  • The creator of the charger explains their choice of lead-acid batteries due to their cost-effectiveness and tolerance for abuse, indicating that redesign would be necessary for charging other battery types, particularly lithium batteries, due to the lack of current sensing in the current design.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views regarding the design and functionality of the solar charger, with no consensus reached on the best practices for charging different battery types or the implications of prolonged float charging. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the optimal approach to battery management.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various assumptions about battery behavior, such as the effects of current pulses and float voltage management, without fully resolving these technical details. There is also a noted dependence on the specific characteristics of lead-acid batteries versus other types.

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I am an electrical engineering student. I have been on summer break for a few weeks now and I had time to work on my project. This is not a school project but something I had wanted to complete for a while. I haven’t decided what I am going to do with it yet. I just built it for the fun of it. Please tell me what you guys think and ask questions. The link --> http://jr.120v.ac/pwm_charger_project/pwm_charger.php
 
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Hello James - Looks very good! -- Keep this documented well, as employers look for what you can DO as much as what you know! -- I would add web accessible data log, let the arduino report energy converted, battery condition etc - so you can show it off !
 
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Looks pretty cool. I'm assuming Rsc is effectively your current limit.

I'll assume you always stay below the gassing voltage, and that lead Acid batteries do OK with the current pulses during topping and float.

If you float for too long you may have issues. (but maybe it is being used a lot so that is not an issue)
 
Jamesr said:
Please tell me what you guys think and ask questions.
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... and that lead Acid batteries do OK...
are you interested in charging other battery types? There's a lot more to batteries than most would think. Battery University has excellent information that may interest you.
 
Nice.
 
meBigGuy said:
Looks pretty cool. I'm assuming Rsc is effectively your current limit.

I'll assume you always stay below the gassing voltage, and that lead Acid batteries do OK with the current pulses during topping and float.

If you float for too long you may have issues. (but maybe it is being used a lot so that is not an issue)

I have read a lot of different experiments that were performed on lead acid batteries. UPS sealed lead acid batteries for alarm systems are kept at a constant float voltage for most of their lifespan and they can last for up to 8-10years without damage. The float voltage is precisely controlled according to the temperature to prevent any form of gassing. I have also read that the small pulses to keep the battery at float is good for the battery because it provides desulphation.

This charger was designed to have lighting run off the battery at night so floating will hopefully not be an issue. If I find that it is an issue, a quick change to the code will fix it.

dlgoff said:
From meBigGuy's comment

are you interested in charging other battery types? There's a lot more to batteries than most would think. Battery University has excellent information that may interest you.

I chose lead acid just because they are the cheapest and most tolerant of abuse. Most off grid solar systems use lead acid batteries for energy storage. I would probably have to redesign a new charger to work with other battery types. The charger shown in this thread does not have any way to sense current. I would be uncomfortable trying to charge other batteries such as lithium type without current sensing.

This charger was designed to have lighting run off the battery at night so floating will hopefully not be an issue. If I find that it is an issue, a quick change to the code will fix it.
 
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