I don't understand the equation for angular momentum?

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Angular momentum is defined as the product of a point mass, its distance from the pivot point squared, and its angular velocity, expressed as m r² ω. This formulation aligns with the conservation of angular momentum in closed systems, similar to how linear momentum is conserved as mv. The relationship between linear and angular motion is highlighted by substituting linear velocity with angular velocity in kinetic energy equations, leading to the concept of moment of inertia. The discussion emphasizes that while angular momentum is conserved, kinetic energy may not be if the radius changes due to internal work. Overall, the connection between angular momentum and Kepler's law illustrates the fundamental principles of physics governing motion.
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Why is it r*mv instead of just mv like "normal," linear momentum?
 
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kashiark said:
Why is it r*mv instead of just mv like "normal," linear momentum?

To be of any use the definition of angular momentum must slot in with other areas of physics.

Look at the following comparison:
In linear motion kinetic energy is \frac{1}{2} m v^2
In the case of motion along a circle with radius r the following relation applies: v = \omega r where \omega is angular velocity.
In the expression for linear kinetic energy the 'v' can be substituted with \omega r and you get:

\frac{1}{2} m \omega^2 r^2

Which is usually rearranged to group mr^2 together

\frac{1}{2} m r^2 \omega^2

The produkt of 'm' and 'r2' is called 'moment of inertia', it can be thought of as the rotational counterpart of linear inertia.

by defining angular momentum as mr^2 \omega Kepler's law of areas is recovered; read http://www.ac.wwu.edu/~vawter/PhysicsNet/Topics/Gravity/SecondLawDerivation.html"

Cleonis
 
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Ah, ok; I think I get it. Thanks!
 
momentum is inertia x velocity.

For linear movement, inertia = mass, so linear momentum = mass x velocity.

For angular movment, angular momentum = ω I, where ω is rate of rotation, and I is the angular inertia. For a point mass, angular inertia is m r2. Other inertias are listed here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_moments_of_inertia

For a point mass I = m r2.

The linear velocity: v = ω r, so ω = v / r

Angular momentum for a point mass = ω I = (v/r) m r2 = r m v

Although angular momentum is conserved in a closed system, kinetic energy normally isn't if the radius is changed. This is because internal work is done to change the radius. During the transition, the object follows a spiral path, and the radial force includes a component of force in the direction of travel for the spiral path. The math for this is covered in this thread:

https://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=328121
 
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Why is inertia mr²?
 
kashiark said:
Why is inertia mr²?

Well, Jeff Reid referred to mr² as 'angular inertia'. A more common expression is 'moment of inertia'.

In physics we're looking for conserved quantities. We find that the quantity mv is conserved in collisions (and interactions in general).

Note that when Kepler's law of areas was formulated its close relationship to momentum wasn't immediately recognized. Newton showed that the area law follows logically from mechanics.

The area law is formulated geometrically, the counterpart of that in the form of a mathematical expression is that a quantity m r^2 \omega is conserved. (where 'r' is the distance to the pivot point.)

The justification for defining the concept of 'moment of inertia' rests on the above: m r^2 \omega (where 'r' is the distance to the pivot point) is conserved in collisions and interactions in general.

Cleonis
 
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