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The discussion focuses on calculating the x-component of the magnetic force on a wire segment due to three other wires carrying equal currents. The user has successfully calculated the y-component of the magnetic field at the center of the square but struggles with the force calculation in Part B. Key guidance includes using the superposition principle for the magnetic field and recognizing that the force calculation must account for the direction of the magnetic field. The correct approach involves applying a cosine factor to adjust for the diagonal components of the magnetic field. Ultimately, the user is advised to ensure they include this factor to achieve the correct force calculation.
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Homework Statement



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The four wires that lie at the corners of a square of side a= 3.50 cm are carrying equal currents i= 2.10 A into (+) or out of (-) the page, as shown in the picture.

Part A: Calculate the y component of the magnetic field at the center of the square. ( I already got the answer for this one) 4.80×10-5 T

Part B: Calculate the x-component of the force on a 1.0-cm long piece of the lower right-hand wire, due to the other three wires.

Homework Equations



B=(mu*I)/(2*pi*r)
mu=4*pi*a0^-7 T*m/A

The Attempt at a Solution



I need help in the second part. I don't know where to start.
 
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OsDaJu said:
I need help in the second part. I don't know where to start.

Welcome to PF.

You will need to solve by superposition for the B field as in a).

Then you will want to take into account the length of the wire segment in determining the force

F = IL X B

http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/magnetic/magfor.html#c1
 
Okay, so I know that B is always perpendicular to Force so B2 is zero in the y direction, F2 is zero in the x direction.
then the superposition is:

B total = B1y + B3y
B total = μI/(2π0.0350)*1/√2 + μI/(2π0.0350)
B total = 2.0485*10^-5 T

Using the force formula,

F = BIL
=2.0485*10^-5 *2.1*0.01= 4.3019*10^-7 N

I did all of this and I got the wrong answer, what am I missing??

P.S: sorry for the delay I had a busy week.
 
OsDaJu said:
Okay, so I know that B is always perpendicular to Force so B2 is zero in the y direction, F2 is zero in the x direction.
then the superposition is:

B total = B1y + B3y
B total = μI/(2π0.0350)*1/√2 + μI/(2π0.0350)
B total = 2.0485*10^-5 T

Using the force formula,

F = BIL
=2.0485*10^-5 *2.1*0.01= 4.3019*10^-7 N

I did all of this and I got the wrong answer, what am I missing??

P.S: sorry for the delay I had a busy week.

What you want is the x-directed force component.

The B-Field is a vector field, and the force component from the diagonal has a cos45 factor still needed to normalize it to x.

Btotal = 1.2 * 10-5 + (.707)(.8 * 10-5)
 
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