If a given permutation in S_n has a given cycle type, describe sgn(sig).

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around determining the sign of a permutation in the symmetric group S_n based on its cycle type. Participants are exploring the relationship between cycle lengths and the sign homomorphism, specifically how the number of cycles of different lengths affects the overall sign.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand how to calculate the sign of a permutation by considering the cycle type and the lengths of the cycles. There is discussion about expanding the permutation into its constituent cycles and how to account for even and odd length cycles.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the relationship between cycle lengths and the sign of the permutation, suggesting that the sign can be determined by the number of even length cycles. However, there remains uncertainty about how to handle cycles of odd length and the implications for the overall sign.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the definitions and properties of cycle types and signs in permutations, with some expressing confusion over notation and the implications of cycle lengths on the sign calculation.

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Homework Statement


5.4: If sigma in S_n has cycle type n_1,...,n_r, what is sgn(sig)? (sgn is the sign homomorphism)

Homework Equations


sgn(sigma) = 1 if sigma is even. sgn(sigma) = -1 is sigma is odd
cycle type is the length of the cycle type. If n_2 = 2, sigma has two 2-cycles.

The Attempt at a Solution


I know what cycle type is (if n_i = j, there are j cycles of length i), and sgn(sigma) is easy. How would I go about expanding (sig) to find how many two cycles I have, if that's even what I should be doing. It doesn't seem that worthwhile to generalize this for cycle type.

I was thinking of writing sgn(sig) as a product of sgn(sig_i) where (sig_i) is an individual cycle of the product of cycles forming (sig), but I don't think that exactly accounts for multiples.

I'm also not sure how to come up with conditions that will say, depending on r, if sgn(sig) = 1, or sgn(sig) = -1.
 
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I'm not quite following your notation here. But to get the sign you just take (-1)^(number of even length cycles), right?
 
Yup. But since you can write any n-cycle as a product of 2-cycles, how do I account for the cycles of odd length.
 
Cycles of even length break into an odd number of two cycles, cycles of odd length break into an even number. I don't see the problem.
 

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