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The discussion focuses on calculating the error in the Earth-moon distance based on the round-trip time of a laser beam. A round-trip time accuracy of 0.17 nanoseconds leads to a potential distance error, which should account for the fact that the measured time reflects a round trip. The correct approach involves determining how far light travels in 0.17 nanoseconds, which is approximately 0.051 meters for the round trip, resulting in an error of about 0.0255 meters for the one-way distance to the moon. Participants emphasize the importance of recognizing the round-trip nature of the measurement in calculating the distance error accurately. Overall, the key takeaway is that the distance error should be half of the calculated round-trip distance error.
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Homework Statement


The distance between Earth and the moon can be determined from the time it takes for a laser beam to travel from Earth to a reflector on the moon and back. If the round-trip time can be measured to an accuracy of 0.17 of a nanosecond (1 ns = 10-9 s), what is the corresponding error in the earth-moon distance?


Homework Equations


t=v/d


The Attempt at a Solution


I set v=3x10^8 m/s, d=405x10^6 m, which gave me 1.35 seconds, which should be the time for light to travel to the moon. then i converted 1.35 seconds to ns, which is 1.35e9. to get the percent error, i did: 0.17ns/1.35e9ns=1.25x10^-10%. then i multiplied that by 405 x 10^6, and i got an error in distance of .00506, but this was not right. what am i doing wrong?
 
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kdrobey said:

Homework Statement


The distance between Earth and the moon can be determined from the time it takes for a laser beam to travel from Earth to a reflector on the moon and back. If the round-trip time can be measured to an accuracy of 0.17 of a nanosecond (1 ns = 10-9 s), what is the corresponding error in the earth-moon distance?


Homework Equations


t=v/d


The Attempt at a Solution


I set v=3x10^8 m/s, d=405x10^6 m, which gave me 1.35 seconds, which should be the time for light to travel to the moon. then i converted 1.35 seconds to ns, which is 1.35e9. to get the percent error, i did: 0.17ns/1.35e9ns=1.25x10^-10%. then i multiplied that by 405 x 10^6, and i got an error in distance of .00506, but this was not right. what am i doing wrong?

They are looking for error distances. If you can't measure time within .17 nanoseconds, maybe ask yourself how far a beam of light could travel in .17 nanoseconds? Wouldn't that be the uncertantity in whatever distance you do measure?
 
The d you are measuring is the round trip time, twice the distance from the Earth to the moon.
 
kdrobey said:
ok, so that would simply be 1.7e-10s x 3e8=.051m?

Sort of.

Since the distance is measured on a round trip, the actual error in the round trip means that the distance to the moon is accurate to within half that distance doesn't it?
 
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