Imbalanced ball's affect on static friction

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The discussion focuses on the relationship between linear force and static friction for a circle with a point mass as it rolls without slipping. Participants explore how to calculate torque in the system, emphasizing the importance of the force vector's direction relative to the center of mass. The conversation highlights the need to understand how forces interact to maintain equilibrium without angular or linear acceleration. Clarifications are made regarding the mass of the circle and the implications of having a point mass. The overall goal is to analyze the dynamics of the system under various conditions.
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Given a circle with a point mass attached, what is the relationship between the linear force and the force of static friction as it rolls without slipping? Each force diagram I made (http://imgur.com/a/xK8i1) seems a plausible place to start: a makes no torque, b makes no linear force, c makes no static friction.
 
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Is the circle massive? What do you mean by "linear force"?
 
I would try to calculate torque in the system of the circle.
There are many ways to split the gravitational attraction in two parts.
 
MikeyW, I'm interested in the generic case, just some circle of radius r. I honestly don't know how the size would affect it, but if the dynamics of the system change past some massive size, I'm interested in the smaller case. By linear force, I meant forces parallel to the slope of the ground that would result in sliding if there was no friction.

mfb, ok, so if I try to focus on how the particle generates torque on the circle, I'm thinking it would be easiest to split the force along the line through the center of mass like this (http://i.imgur.com/Ip7n7.png). The force vector perpendicular to a multiplied by r gives us the amount of torque. However, what do I do with a now? It causes no torque on the circle, but it's not parallel to the slope.

What I really want to understand are the interplay of forces here that would allow a situation like this (http://i.imgur.com/XpZPu.png) to have no angular or linear acceleration.
 
"massive" refers to "does it have mass", not its size. I think without any mass, your pointmass would simply fall down vertically until it reaches the slope (and the circle moves away in an undefined way) and continue sliding afterwards.
 
Oh, yes, the circle has mass. That was silly of me.
 
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