Importance of a standard candle?

  • Context: Undergrad 
  • Thread starter Thread starter NanaToru
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Standard
Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the concept of standard candles in astronomy, particularly their role in measuring distances to celestial objects. Participants explore the implications of standard candles for understanding luminosity, apparent and absolute magnitudes, and the broader significance of distance measurements in cosmology.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Conceptual clarification, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the relationship between standard candles, luminosity, and apparent magnitude, questioning if a supernova's apparent magnitude directly indicates its luminosity.
  • Another participant provides a link to an article, clarifying that standard candles have a known luminosity, which allows for distance determination.
  • A participant reflects on the importance of distance measurements, noting that they are crucial for understanding the structure of the universe and that without them, angular measurements lack physical meaning.
  • There is mention of the limitations of parallax measurements for determining distances and the necessity of standard candles for longer ranges, highlighting ongoing efforts to find more accurate standard candles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the specifics of how standard candles relate to luminosity and magnitude, and there is a mix of understanding and confusion regarding these concepts.

Contextual Notes

There are unresolved questions about the definitions of apparent and absolute magnitudes in relation to standard candles, and the discussion does not clarify the mathematical relationships involved.

NanaToru
Messages
24
Reaction score
0
So I'm a little confused about what a standard candle tells us exactly. From what I understand, it means that the luminosity is relatively constant. Does this tell me something about apparent or absolute magnitudes? Like if a supernova has a peak brightness of an apparent magnitude of 0.7, does this mean that luminosity is 0.7? I am thoroughly confused.
 
Astronomy news on Phys.org
haha should have expected that.

I wasn't sure if it implied anything else other than a new way to find distance, but it was in relation to another question that I figured out, subsequently helping with this.

thank you!
 
NanaToru said:
haha should have expected that.

I wasn't sure if it implied anything else other than a new way to find distance, but it was in relation to another question that I figured out, subsequently helping with this.

thank you!

Well, finding distances is already a very BIG deal! Knowing how far stuff is happening from us has helped us map out the structure of the universe for instance. Other than that, without knowing the distance from events, the dimensions of objects on the sky are basically physically meaningless numbers! (Just like knowing that the Sun is half a degree doesn't tell you anything about how large the Sun actually is until you work out the distance)
Measurements of distances using means like paralax are limited to a small range.
For longer ranges standard candles have to be used. The continual search for better and more accurate standard candles cam enable the probe of even earlier phases of the universe.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
1K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 46 ·
2
Replies
46
Views
7K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
5K