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The discussion centers on understanding why Earth remains in a stable orbit around the Sun despite gravitational attraction. It is explained that centripetal acceleration keeps Earth from colliding with the Sun, although it is gradually moving closer over billions of years. Participants also discuss why satellites eventually fall back to Earth due to atmospheric drag, contrasting this with the idea that true vacuum conditions would prevent such crashes. There is a debate about whether the Sun's mass loss affects Earth's orbit, with some suggesting that the Earth has not spiraled from a farther position due to its current climate stability. The conversation highlights the complexities of gravitational dynamics and orbital mechanics in astrophysics.
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Hi,

New to this forum and my physics isn't great, and i need to improve a hell of a lot for this years exams :-p.

Firstly,

Could someone explain to me how the Earth sits in a static orbit with the sun, in that they don't move closer to each other.

As i thought until tonight, that two objects with mass will attract each other, something with the universal gravitational constant. So therefore if the Earth is in a eliptical orbit with the sun, with centripetal motion why doesn't the suns gravity pull and the fact that all particles attract other particles pull the Earth closer to the sun?



I hope this is in the right forum and thanks for any help

Cheers
Jack
 
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the centripital acceleration that the Earth has while it rotates the sun is a force that keeps the two from colliding into eachoter. And by the way, the Earth is slowly moving towards the sun, and one day, it wwill crash into it. The motion is soo small that it will take billions of years for this to happen.
 
Thank you, so is this the same reason why satellites crash into Earth eventually? they resist Earth's gravity by the centripetal acceleration but not completely and eventually it gets pulled out of orbit and will collide with earth?
 
Satellites are slowed down by the residual atmosphere at their height. If they were in true vacuum they wouldn't crash, because conservation of angular momentum would keep them flying unless they could transfer some of it to some other matter.
 
Nenad said:
...And by the way, the Earth is slowly moving towards the sun, and one day, it wwill crash into it. The motion is soo small that it will take billions of years for this to happen.

Wow... I've never heard that. I've always heard that the Earth will crash into the Sun because the Sun will swell up into a red giant and engulf the Earth. If the Earth is spiraling towards the Sun, what is robbing it of its orbital energy?
I would have guess the opposite. Since the Sun is constantly converting mass to energy and radiating away that energy, and blowing out a solar wind, and storms of charged particles, it would make sense that the Sun is slowly losing mass. That should cause the Earth to spiral out. The tide that the Earth pulls on the Sun should also cause it to spiral out just like our moon spirals out from Earth. But all those things combined shouldn't make much of a difference anyway.


If the Earth will spiral into the Sun, covering a distance of 1 AU over a few billion years, doesn't that imply that Earth spent the last several billion years spiraling into its current position? But since an Earth even slightly farther from the Sun would be a cold icy world in a permanent ice age, doesn't that suggest that the Earth didn't come from farther out in the solar system.

Interesting theory... You've got me curious. :smile:
 
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