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A block of mass 200g is suspended from a vertical spring, which stretches by 1cm at equilibrium. When a 120g particle is dropped from 45cm onto the block, it sticks upon impact, and the goal is to find the maximum extension of the spring. The discussion revolves around determining the spring constant and whether to use force equations or energy conservation principles. The consensus is to avoid using the equation (kx^2)/2 = mgx and instead apply conservation of mechanical energy, considering gravitational potential energy, spring potential energy, and kinetic energy. Understanding impulse is also highlighted as crucial for calculating the system's velocity after the collision.
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Homework Statement

A block of mass 200g is suspended through a vertical spring.The spring is stretched by 1cm when the block is in equilibrium.A particle of mass 120g is dropped on the block from a height of 45cm.The particle sticks to the block after the impact.Find the max extension of the spring.

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Well in the beginning my aim was to find the force constant k.But i am stuck ..should i use k|x| = mg or work done by spring = loss in gravitational PE i.e (kx^2)/2 = mgx.Getting diff result in both. After that I must find out the velocity of the system due to the impulse but how?Then i can apply conservation of mechanical energy I guess i.e KE just after the collision + spring PE_1 = mgh + spring PE_2. (where spring PE_1 is the spring PE before the impact and spring PE_2 is spring PE when it is max stretched.)

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atavistic said:
... should i use k|x| = mg or work done by spring = loss in gravitational PE i.e (kx^2)/2 = mgx.Getting diff result in both. ...
You should not use (kx^2) / 2 = mgx because, if the weight is allowed to fall freely under gravity, the GPE will be translated into spring PE (SPE) plus KE (as you said when considering conservation of mechanical energy):
GPE + SPE + KE = constant

atavistic said:
... After that I must find out the velocity of the system due to the impulse but how? ...
It may help to recall the definition of impulse.
 
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