Index-Free Decomposition of Derivative Timelike Congruence

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The discussion revolves around the decomposition of the covariant derivative of a timelike congruence in an index-free language. Participants explore whether an analogous decomposition exists to the standard index-based form, focusing on the concepts of rotation, shear, expansion, and acceleration within the context of differential geometry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents the standard decomposition of the covariant derivative of a timelike congruence and inquires about an index-free version.
  • Another participant suggests that the issue may be resolved by simply erasing the indices and translating the terms into index-free language, referencing a specific chapter for definitions.
  • A later reply challenges the simplification, asking how to define the components of rotation, shear, and expansion in an index-free manner.
  • Participants discuss the concepts of trace, symmetric part, and antisymmetric part in relation to the decomposition.
  • One participant notes that the trace is taken relative to a specific metric and questions how to express this without indices.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of the induced metric on orthogonal hypersurfaces and suggests looking into Fermi propagation for definitions already presented in index-free language.
  • It is mentioned that the divergence of the tangent vector field can be used to express expansion, which may simplify the index-free formulation.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the feasibility of translating the index-based decomposition into an index-free form. There is no consensus on a definitive method or reference for achieving this translation.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific definitions and the unresolved nature of how to express certain mathematical operations in an index-free context.

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Suppose we have a general timelike congruence of curves with tangent vector field ##V##, then the standard decomposition of the covariant derivative in index form (see e.g. Hawking and Ellis' "Large scale structure of space and time" equation 4.17) is given by
$$V_{a;b} = \omega_{ab} + \sigma_{ab} + \frac{1}{3} \theta h_{ab} - \dot U_a U_b$$
where ##\omega_{ab}, \ \sigma_{ab}, \ \theta, \ \dot U_a## respectively represent the rotation, shear, expansion and acceleration of the congruence.

QUESTION: Is there a decomposition analogous to this but in an index-free language? If so I would very much appreciate a reference.
 
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Surely you can just erase the indices...I'm not sure what the issue is.

It's probably easier to work with the previous equations that express the twist, shear, and expansion in terms of ##\nabla V##. All of the terms are clearly defined beginning in Chapter 4, it shouldn't be hard to "translate" them into index-free language.
 
Ben Niehoff said:
Surely you can just erase the indices...I'm not sure what the issue is.

It's probably easier to work with the previous equations that express the twist, shear, and expansion in terms of ##\nabla V##. All of the terms are clearly defined beginning in Chapter 4, it shouldn't be hard to "translate" them into index-free language.
How would you define ##\omega_{ab}, \sigma_{ab}## and ##\theta## by ##\nabla V## in an index-free language?
 
Trace, symmetric part, antisymmetric part.
 
martinbn said:
Trace, symmetric part, antisymmetric part.
Yes, but the trace is taken relative to ##h_{ab}##. How would one express this on an index free from?
 
center o bass said:
Yes, but the trace is taken relative to ##h_{ab}##. How would one express this on an index free from?

Well, if you turn back a page or two, ##h## is defined:

$$h = g - V \otimes V$$
Or you can just think of ##h## as the induced metric on the orthogonal hypersurfaces to the path.

I think you might actually have better luck looking back at the description of Fermi propagation, since the twist and shear are defined relative to that. Also, it's already given in index-free language. The Fermi-propagated orthonormal frame gives you a basis for ##h##.

It also turns out, however, that ##\theta## is just the divergence of ##V##. Since we've already constrained ##V## to be a unit vector, this operation kind of automatically restricts the trace to be over ##h##.
 

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