Inductance and Capacitance as the Secondary Load

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Adding inductance and capacitance as secondary loads to a toroidal transformer affects impedance and current flow. The impedance of a 38 mH inductor at line frequency is approximately 11.938 ohms, while the combined impedance with a capacitor is around 42.196 ohms. When connected in parallel, the total current from both components is calculated by considering their phase angles, resulting in a total current of about 1.567 amps. The discussion also covers measuring inductance and calculating equivalent circuit parameters, emphasizing the importance of using consistent measurement methods and understanding the underlying principles of AC circuit analysis. Accurate calculations and measurements are crucial for transformer characterization and performance assessment.
  • #51
Hello Hardy Sir,
I ahve attached a file below regarding the watt/kg value which I have taken of the material specified. It shoes only for 50 and 60 Hz. looking at this values I ahve taken 1.1 for 100 Hz. unfortunately there was no µ and Al value.
 

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  • #52
Well here's their list of datasheets
https://cogent-power.com/downloads
though i don't see M097-30N

here's a snip from one at https://cogent-power.com/cms-data/downloads/Hi-Lite_NO30.pdf
it seems to have B vs H tabulated
sometimes those part numbers are cryptic
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if you can't find your core material on their site
i guess you'll have to take them up on this offer

magneticCogent4Jimmy.jpg

and ask for help finding the right datasheet.

Does that "Polarization" in right hand column work out to μrelative about 1900 ?
 
  • #53
Hello Hardy Sir,
jim hardy said:
Does that "Polarization" in right hand column work out to μrelative about 1900 ?

B=µH, µ=µ0*µr.
µr= B/( µ0*H), µ0=4*pi*10^(-7), B=1T, H=800A/m
from this I get
µr=995 Is this correct?
However with this permeability I get I am very large which should not be. I am totally confused right now and mixing things here and there. Please help me.
 
  • #54
Jimmy Lalani said:
µr=995 Is this correct?
It's correct for 1T

but they show 1.88 to 1.9 Tand that looks reasonable , here's a similar datasheet from another manufacturer .
http://www.aksteel.com/pdf/markets_products/electrical/AK%20CARLITE%20Lite%20042413.pdf
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10 Oersteds is approximately 800 A/M(795.7) and 18 kilogauss is 1.8 Teslas
Jimmy Lalani said:
However with this permeability I get I am very large which should not be. I am totally confused right now and mixing things here and there.

I cannot see your work.
I have to think that
were it orderly and neat
with one calculation per line,
columns arranged so it's easy to read,
with notes interspersed explaining what is purpose of each calculation

you would not be confused .

Jimmy Lalani said:
However with this permeability I get Im very large

In the font on my screen lowercase letters "l"(ell) and uppercase "I"(eye) are indistinguishable
so i do not know which you mean, inductance or current, is very large.
 
  • #56
Fantastic find there @Tom.G

Never dawned on me there was a method to those cryptic numbers .

I learn something every day here .
From your first link

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I think that was @Jimmy Lalani 's missing piece.
 
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