Inductance of a loop in a nonuniform magnetic field

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The discussion revolves around calculating the inductance of a square wire loop placed in a nonuniform vertical magnetic field. The loop experiences induced electromotive force (emf) due to a change in magnetic flux as it moves, but participants express confusion about the correct application of formulas, particularly regarding the relationship between emf, current, and resistance. One contributor attempts to derive the induced emf using flux calculations but struggles with the implications of negligible resistance and the role of time in the context of the problem. Clarifications are sought on the correct equations for emf, with references to similar problems in textbooks highlighting differences in conditions. The conversation emphasizes the need to focus on emf rather than current due to the absence of resistance in the loop.
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Homework Statement


A square loop made of wire with negligible resistance is placed on a horizontal frictionless table. The mass of the loop is m and the length of each side is b. a nonuniform vertical magnetic field B=B0(1+kx) exists in the region, where B0 and k are constants. The loo is given a quick push with initial velocity v along x-axis. The loop stops after a time interval T. Find the inductance of the loop.



Homework Equations




emf(ind) = -L*dI/dT
U=1/2*L*I^2
emf= -delta flux/delta t

The Attempt at a Solution



well, I am sort of in a loss for this one.
I tried to get the induced emf by finding dflux/dt:

flux
=integral ( B0*(1+kx) * b dX )
= b*B0*(b*2*k*x+b^2*k+2*b)/2

change of flux in regards with time = dphi/dx * dx/dt
= b^2*k*B0*v (because velocity= dx/dt)

so emf is b^2*k*B0

now I am not sure what to do, since the resistance is negligble and i can't find the current from it...

also the whole time interval thing, where does it come into play (kinematics ?)
and should I use conservation of energy here ?
1/2 * m * v^2 = 1/2 * L * I^2 ? for some reason I don't think its the right way

just thoroughly confused with this one. please help !
 
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anyone ? any hints/suggestions ?
 
I don't think you got the right equation for emf, you are trying to use the emf generated by a solenoid.

Also, you don't need to find any current (you can't, since there is no resistance), you only need to find the emf.
 
Nick89 said:
I don't think you got the right equation for emf, you are trying to use the emf generated by a solenoid.

Also, you don't need to find any current (you can't, since there is no resistance), you only need to find the emf.

can you possibly expand on your answers ?

what do you mean I don't have the right expression for the emf ? and what does a solenoid have to do with this problem ?

the textbook I use states that the self-induced emf in any closed loop of current is -L*dI/dT...

I saw a similar problem done in a portable ta guide the way I described... only there resistance wasnt negligible and the field was Bz=C/x and not B=B0*(1+kx)...
 
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