Ineleastic perpendicular collision question

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The discussion revolves around solving a physics problem involving an inelastic collision between two cars, where they lock together and slide a distance of 11.25 meters. Participants emphasize the need to apply the conservation of momentum and kinematic equations to find unknown velocities, despite the initial confusion over the lack of given velocities. The acceleration of 9.81 m/s² is noted as a deceleration, indicating that it opposes the motion of the locked cars. There is a consensus that the problem can be approached by defining variables for the unknown speeds and using the provided motion details to derive equations. Ultimately, understanding the relationship between momentum, distance, and acceleration is crucial for solving the problem.
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Homework Statement


Car 1: 2200kg
Initial direction: South
Car 2: 1800kg
Initial direction: East
Cars lock together and slide 11.25M (S 22.25 E)
At an acceleration that is 9.81 m (back) (it's a coincidence that this is gravity.)

Homework Equations


Who's fault was the collision if the speed limit was 50km/h?

I can't find momentum without a velocity so I'm very lost

The Attempt at a Solution

 
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MomentumIsHard said:

Homework Statement


Car 1: 2200kg
Initial direction: South
Car 2: 1800kg
Initial direction: East
Cars lock together and slide 11.25M (S 22.25 E)
At an acceleration that is 9.81 m (back) (it's a coincidence that this is gravity.)

Homework Equations


Who's fault was the collision if the speed limit was 50km/h?

I can't find momentum without a velocity so I'm very lost

The Attempt at a Solution

Just invent variables to represent the three unknown velocities, the two before and the one after collision.
Momentum gives you two equations, stopping distance gives you a third.
 
haruspex said:
Just invent variables to represent the three unknown velocities, the two before and the one after collision.
Momentum gives you two equations, stopping distance gives you a third.

Which equations are those? We only got one equation for in elastic in class, what about the distance one too? What you said makes sense but I can't find 3 equations
 
Hi MomentumIsHard,

You need to make some attempt before help can be given. What details about the motion after the collision do you know?
 
gneill said:
Hi MomentumIsHard,

You need to make some attempt before help can be given. What details about the motion after the collision do you know?
All the question states is that it moves 11.25 M [Back] (even though other directions were given in terms of east and south) at an acceleration of 9.81 m/s. The problem is I don't know where to start so I can't really make an attempt. Once I get one momentum I could pretty easily figure this out but I can't quite figure that out with no velocities given
 
MomentumIsHard said:
Which equations are those?
Conservation of momentum (one for each of two dimensions) and the SUVAT equation relating speeds, distance and (constant) acceleration.
 
MomentumIsHard said:
All the question states is that it moves 11.25 M [Back] (even though other directions were given in terms of east and south) at an acceleration of 9.81 m/s. The problem is I don't know where to start so I can't really make an attempt. Once I get one momentum I could pretty easily figure this out but I can't quite figure that out with no velocities given
No idea what "[Back]" is supposed to mean, but it doesn't matter if you're given the rest of the motion details. You have a distance, an acceleration, and a final speed. What can you deduce from that?
 
gneill said:
No idea what "[Back]" is supposed to mean, but it doesn't matter if you're given the rest of the motion details. You have a distance, an acceleration, and a final speed. What can you deduce from that?
I think it means the direction of the given acceleration is opposite to the motion.
 
haruspex said:
I think it means the direction of the given acceleration is opposite to the motion.
That's quite likely. Of course deceleration is also implied by the fact that the combined mass travels a limited distance.
 
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