Inequality Proof: Is Multiplying Both Sides Valid?

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The discussion centers on the validity of multiplying both sides of an inequality when one side is positive. The author of "Principles of Mathematical Analysis" attempts to prove that if x > 0 and y < z, then xy < xz, suggesting that multiplying by a positive number preserves the inequality. Concerns are raised about whether the proof assumes the very result it aims to establish, particularly when substituting values. Participants clarify that multiplying two positive numbers cannot yield a negative result, reinforcing the validity of the author's approach. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding foundational principles in mathematical proofs.
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Hello,

In Principles of Mathematical Analysis, the author is attempting to demonstrate that, if ##x > 0## and ##y < z##, then ##xy < xz##, which essentially states that multiplying by a positive number does not disturb the inequality.

I am hoping someone will quickly denounce this with an adequate explanation, but I feel as though the author is using the result to prove it.

He begins by noting that, if ##z > y##, ##z - y > 0##. He multiplies both sides by ##x > 0##, and gets ##x(z-y) > 0##.

This seems to be a special case of the theorem which we are trying to prove. Wouldn't this be an invalid step as we do not know what results from multiplying both sides of an inequality? Let ##c = z - y##, and replace ##y## with zero in the theorem. This would give us

If ##x > 0## and ##0 < c##, then ##x \cdot 0 < xc##.

Am I mistaken?
 
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He is assuming that if you multiply two positive numbers, you will get a positive number. I don't think for knowing this, you need to know the theorem mentioned, so I see no problem with the proof.
 
Shyan said:
I don't think for knowing this...

I am sorry, but I do not quite follow what you are saying here.
 
Bashyboy said:
I am sorry, but I do not quite follow what you are saying here.
The product of two numbers is negative only when one of them is negative. You can't get a negative number by multiplying two positive numbers.
 
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