Inertial Reference Frames in Train Experiments: Correct Statements

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The discussion revolves around an experiment conducted inside a moving train car, where a load is suspended from the ceiling. The load is not swinging and makes a constant angle with the horizontal. Participants are examining statements regarding the nature of the train as an inertial reference frame and the implications of the load's behavior.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants discuss the implications of the angle of the string and its relation to the train's motion. Questions arise about the definitions of inertial frames and whether the train can be considered inertial based on the load's acceleration. Some participants suggest drawing a free body diagram to analyze forces acting on the load.

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The discussion is active, with participants exploring various interpretations of the statements regarding the train's motion. Some guidance is offered regarding the relationship between acceleration and the inertial nature of the frame, but no consensus has been reached on the correct statements.

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Participants note the importance of the angle of the string in determining the nature of the train's motion, with specific emphasis on whether the angle is 90 degrees or another value. There is also mention of the need for clarity on the definitions of rest and acceleration in the context of the experiment.

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You are conducting an experiment inside a train car that may move horizontally along rail tracks. A load is hung from the ceiling on a string. The load is not swinging, and the string is observed to make a constant angle of with the horizontal. No other forces are acting on the load. Which of the following statements are correct?


Statements include:
The train is an inertial frame of reference.
The train is not an inertial frame of reference.
The train may be at rest.
The train may be moving at a constant speed in a straight line.
The train may be moving at a constant speed in a circle.
The train must be speeding up.
The train must be slowing down.
The train must be accelerating.

Please help, and if you could, explain why as well. I am doing these as practice for an exam and would really like to lock down the concept.
 
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"and the string is observed to make a constant angle of with the horizontal"

The answers depend on whether this angle is 90 degrees (i.e., hanging vertically) or some other angle.

Should the word 'horizontal' be replaced with 'vertical'?
 
it's a 45 degree angle from the horizontal, sorry :)
 
The train is an inertial frame of reference.
The train is not an inertial frame of reference.

Draw a free body diagram of the load. If F = ma indicates that a is 0, its inertial; if a is not 0, its not inertial. You should find that a not zero, and it is constant.

The train may be at rest.

The load in moving and accelerating at the same rate as the train. Answer the question: Can an object be accelerating if its velocity is zero? Is an object tossed in the air accelerating at the peak of its path?

The train may be moving at a constant speed in a straight line.

Can't be if its accelerating.

The train may be moving at a constant speed in a circle.

In this case, is its acceleration constant?

The train must be speeding up.

Nope.

The train must be slowing down.

Nope

The train must be accelerating.

Yep.
 
Thank you, hard to wrap my head around it all sometimes.
 

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