Infinite sum of non negative integers

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Homework Statement


Consider a sequence of non negative integers x1,x2,x3,...xn
which of the following cannot be true ?
##A)\sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}= \infty \space and \space \sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}^{2}= \infty##

##B)\sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}= \infty \space and \space \sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}^{2}< \infty##

##C)\sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}< \infty \space and \space \sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}^{2}< \infty##

##D)\sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n} \leq 5 \space and \space \sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}^{2} \geq 25##

##E)\sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}< \infty \space and \space \sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}^{2}= \infty##

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



A) is true when xn = n
B)
C) is true when xn = 1/n
D)
E)

i can't find any ways to eliminate or finalise B,C, or D
 
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Hi,
Let's work our way down the list. You did A already. Then:
If ##x\ge1##, what do you know about ##x^2## in relation to ##x## ?
 
matrixone said:

The Attempt at a Solution



A) is true when xn = n
B)
C) is true when xn = 1/n
D)
E)

i can't find any ways to eliminate or finalise B,C, or D

It says the sequences are integers. ##1/n## is not an integer.
 
Hadn't even considered that ! was too focused on the fact that ##
C)\sum ^{\infty }_{n=1} x_{n}\nless \infty## for 1/n
 
BvU said:
Hi,
Let's work our way down the list. You did A already. Then:
If ##x\ge1##, what do you know about ##x^2## in relation to ##x## ?

##x^2 \geq x## and the equality is only when x=1
So in no case the sum of ##x_{n}## can exceed ##x_{n}^{2}##
So B cannot be true .

Am i correct Sir ?

PeroK said:
It says the sequences are integers. ##1/n## is not an integer.

I never noticed that SIr ! thanks for pointing out ...

if both the sequence contains only zeroes this is true ...
So C is also eliminated.

For D,

Lets have first sequence : 5,0,0,0,0,0,...
So second sequence : 25,0,0,0,0,0,...

So it is possible .

for E,
Only case where the first sum is less than infinity is finite number of positive terms. In that case second sum will also be finite.
So E is also true

So final answers B and E ?
Am i correct now ?
Thanks a lot both of you :)
 
matrixone said:
##x^2 \geq x## and the equality is only when x=1
So in no case the sum of ##x_{n}## can exceed ##x_{n}^{2}##
So B cannot be true .

Am i correct Sir ?
I never noticed that SIr ! thanks for pointing out ...

if both the sequence contains only zeroes this is true ...
So C is also eliminated.

For D,

Lets have first sequence : 5,0,0,0,0,0,...
So second sequence : 25,0,0,0,0,0,...

So it is possible .

for E,
Only case where the first sum is less than infinity is finite number of positive terms. In that case second sum will also be finite.
So E is also true

So final answers B and E ?
Am i correct now ?
Thanks a lot both of you :)

Looks like you've got it.
 
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