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The discussion revolves around the modeling of a stochastic simulation of a chain fission reaction in enriched uranium, specifically focusing on the behavior of neutrons in the fission process. Participants explore the laws governing neutron emission and kinetic energy, as well as the implications for sustaining a chain reaction in different contexts, such as commercial reactors versus atomic bombs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant describes the process of neutron-induced fission in U-235 and the conditions under which a chain reaction can be sustained or lead to a runaway reaction.
  • Another participant provides empirical formulas for the number of neutrons emitted per fission and their kinetic energy, noting that these are specific to U-235 and vary with energy.
  • A question is raised about the threshold energy for an emitted neutron to be captured, indicating uncertainty about how energetic neutrons affect the propagation of the reaction.
  • Discussion includes the importance of moderators in thermal reactors and how they influence neutron energy and fission probability.
  • Participants mention the need for simplifying assumptions in modeling, particularly when comparing to atomic bomb processes where moderation is not a factor.
  • One participant requests clarification on tables related to cross-sections and their significance in calculating reaction rates.
  • A later post inquires about finding semi-analytic expressions for cross-sections as a function of energy and temperature.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying views on the feasibility of sustaining a chain reaction under different conditions, with some suggesting that it may be impossible without a moderator, while others propose focusing on bomb-like conditions where moderation is not considered. There is no consensus on the threshold energy for neutron capture or the specifics of cross-section calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants acknowledge the complexity of neutron interactions and the dependence of cross-sections on energy, indicating that further empirical data and modeling assumptions are necessary for accurate simulations. The discussion highlights the limitations of current understanding and the need for specific conditions in modeling fission reactions.

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This discussion may be useful for students and researchers in nuclear engineering or physics, particularly those interested in fission reactions, neutron behavior, and simulation modeling in nuclear contexts.

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I'm trying to write a stochastic simulation of a chain fission reaction in an enriched uranium sample (I plan to vary the concentration of U235 - from what I've read 4%U235 vs 96%U238 is what is used in commercial reactors).

from my basic understanding of the process, a neutron is fired into the sample, where it is captured by a U235 atom which undergoes fission into two lighter elements and some stray neutrons. These stray neutrons go on to propagate the reaction. If not enough are released then the reaction will fizzle, if too many are produced you get a runaway reaction (as in the A-bomb).

My question is: where can I find the laws that govern
a) how many neutrons are emitted
b) how much kinetic energy will they have when they are ejected.

part b is relevant to my simulation because if the neutrons are too energetic, they won't be captured by a U235 atom and thus won't serve to propagate the reaction.
 
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ptabor said:
My question is: where can I find the laws that govern
a) how many neutrons are emitted
b) how much kinetic energy will they have when they are ejected.

i'm pretty sure these can only be determined emperically. Here's what I've got from my reactor theory book:

a) \nu(E) = 2.432 + 0.066E, for 0<E<=1MeV
\nu(E) = 2.349 + 0.15E, for E > 1 MeV.

\nu is defined as the number of neutrons released per fission, and notice also that \nu is explicitly a function of energy, and this formula is only valid for U-235.

b) The spectrum is:

<br /> \chi (E) = 0.453 e^{-1.036E} \sinh(\sqrt{2.29E})<br />

Again, this is valid only for U-235. E for both formulas is in MeV.

EDIT: I guess I should add that, from what you've described of your model, I suspect you'll find sustaining a chain reaction is impossible. This is because the average energy of a fission neutron is ~2-MeV. If you're assuming only low-energy neutrons can cause a fission, I suspect you'll get << 1 neutron per fission that goes on to produce another fission. In a real-world thermal reactor, you've got a moderator (usually water) that slows the neutrons down to thermal energies before they are absorbed.
 
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Grogs, can you please cite the textbook? perhaps I'll venture over to the library and check it out.

is the Energy in these equations the energy of the impact neutron?
 
ptabor said:
Grogs, can you please cite the textbook? perhaps I'll venture over to the library and check it out.

Sure. It's 'Nuclear Reactor Analysis' by Duderstadt and Hamilton. I don't know your level of expertise, but it's a pretty intimidating text (and I say that as a person working on an MS in Nuclear Engineering.) You might also check out 'Introduction to Nuclear Engineering' by Lamarsh. It's a bit more user-friendly. Finally, if you're not particularly proficient in physics/engineering, there's 'Nuclear Energy: Principles, Practices, and Prospects' by Bodansky. It's geared more towards the curious novice than the NE student, so it's easy to understand, but pretty skimpy on details.

Most likely, from the sound of what you're modelling, look for the 'four-factor' or 'six-factor' formula in the index. That's a pretty easy qualitative to compare reactivity to enrichment.

is the Energy in these equations the energy of the impact neutron?

The first part (#neutrons per fission) is. For thermal reactors where most of the fissions are caused by low-energy neutrons, we usually just use 2.43 for \nu.

The second equation is giving the energy of the neutrons *produced* by a fission, or more correctly, it's giving you the probability that a neutron will be produced at a particular energy. The energy of the incoming neutron would have very little impact on this equation.
 
Ahh, thanks for the clarification.

What is the threshold energy for an emitted neutron to be captured? this is to say, how energetic is too energetic to propagate the reaction?

Also, in the probability density, what is a reasonable range for E?

Ima head over to the library and check out Lamarsh's book, as I have no background in Nuclear physics, other than the standard undergraduate modern physics class.
thanks for all your help.
 
Neutrons can be absorbed at any energy, with varying probability (micrscopic cross-section). Also, whether or not they will cause fission, also varies with energy.

http://wwwndc.tokai.jaeri.go.jp/cgi-bin/Tab80WWW.cgi?/data2/JENDL/JENDL-3.3prc/intern/U235.intern

http://wwwndc.tokai.jaeri.go.jp/cgi-bin/nuclinfo2004?92,235

See - Cross Sections (taken from JENDL-3.3) - need special software to process.

Table of U-235 .
Figures of U-235 : type-1: type-2: type-3.

Basically one needs a program to process the microscopic cross-sections into macroscopic cross-sections in order to calculate the reaction rates.

One also needs temperature and density of the U-235. The question - will the sample be moderated/cooled?

Commercial reactors use UO2 with U-235 up to 5% of U. They are also moderated, i.e. neutron energies are slowed to ~0.025 in thermal equilibrium with the core materials. Fission neutrons have high energies on the order of a few MeV.

Basically one has to determine the reaction probability per unit energy then integrate over the energy spectrum to determine the overall criticality or reaction rate.
 
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For the sake of simplicity (this is an open ended assignment), perhaps I should stick to modeling the process that occurs in the a-bomb. Then I wouldn't have to worry about the moderator.

astro, if you have the time, can you perhaps provide a little explanation of these tables?
 
ptabor said:
For the sake of simplicity (this is an open ended assignment), perhaps I should stick to modeling the process that occurs in the a-bomb. Then I wouldn't have to worry about the moderator.

astro, if you have the time, can you perhaps provide a little explanation of these tables?

What you'll need to do is make some simplifying assumptions. The key component of the 4- and 6- factor formulas are the cross-sections, which represent the probability the neutrons will interact with a given nucleus. Unfortunately, these cross-sections are strongly energy dependent. Take a look at http://wwwndc.tokai.jaeri.go.jp/j33fig/jpeg/u235_f1.jpg graph from Astronuc's post for an example. What you'll have to do is find a value of the cross-sections that's pretty representative of the neutrons present in the Uranium. With those cross-sections, if you can get somewhat decent guesses at the value of 4 of the 6 terms of the 6-factor formula, you can come up with an algebraic expression relating the enrichment on 235-U to the multiplication factor, k. To make a bomb, k must be >1, so that's your cutoff point.

Since the cross-sections are really at the heart of that problem, take a look in the LaMarsh book and get familiar with what microscopic and macroscopic cross-sections if you haven't already encountered them in your Modern Physics class.
 
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Does anyone know where I can find a semi analytic expression for the cross sections, as a function of energy/temperature?
 
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