Prove: Integral of |f(x)|dx = 0 $\implies$ f(x) = 0 for all x in [a,b]

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In summary, the conversation discusses proving that if f is continuous on [a,b] and the integral from a to b of |f(x)|dx = 0, then f(x) = 0 for all x in [a,b]. The proof involves a contradiction by assuming f(x) is not equal to zero for all x in [a,b] and showing that this leads to a contradiction with the given statement. The key idea is to use the property of integrals to show that a non-zero value must exist for f(x) in the given interval.
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Homework Statement


PRove that, if f is continuous on [a,b] and the integral from a to b of |f(x)|dx = 0 (thats absolute value of f(x) ), then f(x) = 0 for all x in [a,b]


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HEre is my attempt...its not very rigorous which is why I'm asking for any tips that could make this a more formal proof:

Proof by contradiction:
Assume f(x) is not equal to zero for all x in [a,b]
then there exists an x1 element of [a,b] such that f(x1) > 0
Then by properties of integrals we can integrate f(x) from a to x1 and from x1 to b and add them together
since f(x1) is greater than zero and not just a removable discontinuity (since f is stated as continusous), the area bound by x = a, x = x1, y = 0 and y = f(x) must also be greater than zero and therefore the integral from a to x1 of |f(x)|dx is also greater than zero. Since the function |f(x)| is always nonnegative, the integral from x1 to b of |f(x)|dx is also nonnegative. Since the integral from a to x1 is positive and from x1 to b is non-negative, then their sum must also be positive. But this congradicts the assumption that the integral from a to b of |f(x)|dx = 0 for all x in [a,b] , so f(x) must be 0 for all x in [a,b]
 
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Your first statement is wrong. You are asked to prove that f(x)= 0 for all x in [a,b]. The "contradiction" of that is NOT that f(x) is non 0 for all x in [a,b], it is that f(x) is not 0 for at least one x1 in [a,b]. Since f(x) is continuous, there exist some [itex]\delta[/itex] such that f(x) is non-zero (and |f(x)|> 0) for all x in [itex](x_1-\delta,x_1+\delta). Then you know the integral on [itex](x_1-\delta,x_1+\delta) is non-zero.
 
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Ohhh I see what you mean :)
thankss, i understand it better now
 

1. What is the meaning of "Prove: Integral of |f(x)|dx = 0 $\implies$ f(x) = 0 for all x in [a,b]"?

This statement is a mathematical expression that relates the integral of the absolute value of a function, f(x), to the function itself. It states that if the integral of the absolute value of f(x) is equal to 0 over a specific interval [a,b], then the function f(x) must be equal to 0 over that same interval.

2. What is an integral and how is it related to this statement?

An integral is a mathematical concept that represents the area under a curve on a graph. In this statement, the integral of the absolute value of f(x) represents the total area under the curve of the function |f(x)|. This integral is then equated to 0, meaning that the total area under the curve is 0. This has implications for the function f(x) itself.

3. How can we prove this statement to be true?

To prove this statement, we can use the fundamental theorem of calculus, which states that if a function is continuous and has an antiderivative, then the integral of that function over a specific interval can be calculated by evaluating the antiderivative at the endpoints of the interval. We can also use the properties of integrals, such as linearity and the fact that the integral of a positive function is always greater than or equal to 0, to show that if the integral of |f(x)| is equal to 0, then f(x) must be equal to 0 for all x in [a,b].

4. Are there any exceptions to this statement?

Yes, there are some exceptions to this statement. For example, if the function f(x) is not continuous over the interval [a,b], then this statement may not hold true. Additionally, if the interval [a,b] is not finite, then this statement may not hold true. It is important to consider the assumptions and conditions of this statement when applying it to specific functions and intervals.

5. What is the significance of this statement in mathematics and science?

This statement has implications for the concepts of continuity, integrals, and functions in mathematics. It also has applications in various fields of science, such as physics and engineering, where integrals are used to calculate physical quantities and analyze systems. Understanding and applying this statement can lead to a deeper understanding of mathematical and scientific principles.

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