Integral of x^-2 b/w -1 & 1: -2 Explained

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The discussion revolves around the integral of 1/(x^2) between -1 and 1, specifically addressing the confusion regarding the result of -2 despite the function being positive over the interval. Participants explore the implications of the discontinuity at x = 0 and the nature of improper integrals.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the evaluation of the integral and the challenges posed by the infinite discontinuity at 0. There is mention of using the definition of improper integrals and the limits involved in evaluating the integral from -1 to 1.

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Some participants express understanding of the issues related to the integral's evaluation and the concept of the Cauchy Principal Value. There is recognition of the limits not existing when approached independently, indicating a productive exploration of the topic.

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The discussion highlights the assumption that the integral can be evaluated directly despite the discontinuity, prompting participants to reconsider the implications of this assumption and the nature of the function involved.

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Homework Statement


The integral of 1/(x^2) between -1 and 1 comes to -2. How is this possible when the graph is always above the x-axis?

3. The Attempt at a Solution
the integral of x^(-2) = -x^(-1) + c
in this range you get (-1/1 - 1/1) which does indeed equal 2.
My original solution was to say that since the graph is not continuous in this range it makes no sense to try to find the integral (which should be infinite surely?). Is there more to it than this?
Thanks
 
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Short answer: the integral of [itex]1/x^2[/itex] between -1 and 1 does NOT "come to -2". In fact, [itex]1/x^2[/itex] is not differentiable between -1 and 1 because of the infinite discontinuity at 0. Specifically, you cannot just find the anti-derivative and evaluate at -1 and 1.

You could try to evaluate it using the definition of "improper integrals":
[tex]\int_{-1}^1 \frac{1}{x^2} dx= \int_{-1}^{-\alpha}\frac{1}{x^2}dx+ \int_\beta^1 \frac{1}{x^2}dx[/tex]
and then take the limits as [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\beta[/itex] go to 0independently.
The two integrals are
[tex]-\frac{1}{x}\left|_{-1}^{-\alpha}+ \frac{1}{x}\right|_{\beta}^1= \frac{1}{\alpha}- 1- 1+ \frac{1}{\beta}[/tex]
but that limit does not exist as [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\beta[/itex] go to 0 independently
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If you were to assume that [itex]\alpha= \beta[/itex] you would be calcuating the "Cauchy Principle Value"- those two fractions would cancel and you would get "-2". If the integral itself exists, then the Cauchy Principle Value but if the integral does not exist, as here, you get the kind of ridiculous result you cite.
 
Ok that's fine, pretty much what I thought (though hadn't thought through the limits thing)
Thank you
 
HallsofIvy said:
Short answer: the integral of [itex]1/x^2[/itex] between -1 and 1 does NOT "come to -2". In fact, [itex]1/x^2[/itex] is not differentiable between -1 and 1 because of the infinite discontinuity at 0. Specifically, you cannot just find the anti-derivative and evaluate at -1 and 1.

You could try to evaluate it using the definition of "improper integrals":
[tex]\int_{-1}^1 \frac{1}{x^2} dx= \int_{-1}^{-\alpha}\frac{1}{x^2}dx+ \int_\beta^1 \frac{1}{x^2}dx[/tex]
and then take the limits as [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\beta[/itex] go to 0independently.
The two integrals are
[tex]-\frac{1}{x}\left|_{-1}^{-\alpha}+ \frac{1}{x}\right|_{\beta}^1= \frac{1}{\alpha}- 1- 1+ \frac{1}{\beta}[/tex]
but that limit does not exist as [itex]\alpha[/itex] and [itex]\beta[/itex] go to 0 independently
.

If you were to assume that [itex]\alpha= \beta[/itex] you would be calcuating the "Cauchy Principle Value"- those two fractions would cancel and you would get "-2".
. Actually, they wouldn't cancel; they both go to [itex]\infty[/itex]. If the integrand was odd they would have cancelled.
If the integral itself exists, then the Cauchy Principle Value but if the integral does not exist, as here, you get the kind of ridiculous result you cite.
 

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