Integral to find the Surface area

In summary, the conversation discusses finding the surface area and volume of a cone created by rotating the function f(x)=x around the x-axis for the interval [0,1]. It is explained that the differential of arc length is needed to find the surface area, taking into account the fact that the function is not parallel to the x-axis. However, when finding the volume, the function's orientation does not affect the calculation. The conversation also provides a fallacious argument using a broken line to approximate the length of a line segment, emphasizing the need for the Pythagorean theorem to accurately find the length.
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For a given function f(x)=x, if we rotate this function from [0,1] around the x-axis, we'll have a cone... why can't I find its surface area by adding the perimeter of all the circunferences from [0,1] with radius = f(x)?Something like 2*pi∫xdx? The formulas says we have to do 2*pi∫x*√(i+y'²)dx ...
 
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Since the function f(x) is not parallel to the x-axis the area differential has to take into account that effect, which for your problem is √2.

In general, you need the differential of arc length of the revolving figure which is
√(1+y'²)dx.
 
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But to find the volume of the cone, for exemple, the fact that the function isn't parallel to the x-axis doens't influence that "volume is the sum of all areas of all circles"... What changes?
 
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Think of the area of the cone's surface as the sum of a bunch of thin circular strips. The extra factor is the width of the strip.
 
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Consider this fallacious argument: If we divide the interval from x= 0 to x= 1 into n equal subintervals, each of length 1/n, we can "approximate" the line from (0, 0) to (1, 1) by a broken line, the horizontal line from (0, 0) to (1/n, 0), the vertical line from I(1/n, 0) to (1/n, 1/n), the horizontal line from (1/n, 1/n) to (2/n, 1/n), the vertical line from (2/n, 1/n) to (2/n, 2/n), etc.

The area under the horizontal line from (k/n, k/n) to ((k+1)/n, k/n) is (k/n)(1/n)= k/n^2 so the total area is [itex]\sum_{k=0}^n k/n^2= (1/n^2)\sum_{k=0}^n k= (1/n^2)(n(n+1)/2= (n^2+ n)/2n= n/2+ 1/2. And the limit, as n goes to infinity, is 1/2, the area under the straight line.

But if we, instead, use the length of the broken line to approximate the length of the line, each segment has length 1/n and there are 2n such segments so that we get a length of 2 which is wrong. The length of the line segment from (k/n, k/n) to ((k+1)/n, (k+1)/n) simply cannot be approximated by the length of those two horizontal and vertical segments. We have to use the Pythagorean theorem to get the length of each segment: [itex]\sqrt{(1/n)^2+ (1/n)^2}= (1/n)\sqrt{2}[/itex]. And that leads to the arclength formula.
 

1. What is the definition of integral to find the surface area?

The integral to find the surface area is a mathematical tool used to calculate the total area of a three-dimensional shape. It involves breaking down the shape into infinitesimal pieces and summing them up using calculus.

2. Why is the integral method used to find surface area instead of other methods?

The integral method is used because it is a more precise and accurate way to calculate surface area compared to other methods. It takes into account the curves and irregularities of the shape, making it a more reliable method.

3. How is the integral calculated to find surface area?

The integral to find surface area is calculated by setting up the integral expression with the appropriate limits and function, based on the shape being measured. This integral expression is then solved using calculus techniques such as integration by parts or substitution.

4. What are the common shapes for which the integral method is used to find surface area?

The integral method can be used for a variety of shapes, such as spheres, cones, cylinders, and more complex shapes like ellipsoids and hyperboloids. It can also be used for irregular shapes by breaking them down into smaller, simpler shapes.

5. Are there any real-life applications of using the integral method to find surface area?

Yes, the integral method is used in various fields such as engineering, physics, and architecture to calculate surface area of objects and structures. For example, it is used in construction to determine the amount of material needed to cover a building or in physics to calculate the surface area of a solid object.

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