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The discussion revolves around finding the volume of a solid defined by the surface z=1+e^x sin(y) and bounded by the planes x=±1, y=0, y=π, and z=0. Participants are exploring the implications of these boundaries on the volume calculation.

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  • Participants discuss the setup of the problem, including the interpretation of the bounding planes and the surface equation. There is a focus on the integration process, particularly the order of integration and the limits involved.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the role of the z=0 plane as the lower boundary in the volume calculation. Others are actively engaging with the integration process and sharing their results, though there is no explicit consensus on the final outcome.

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There are mentions of confusion regarding the inclusion of the z=0 plane in the volume formula, as well as varying interpretations of the limits for integration. Some participants express a desire to verify their calculations and seek advice on using calculators for the integration process.

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I really need help with this problem.

Find the volume of the solid enclosed by the surface z=1+exsiny and the planes x=±1, y=0, y=pi and z= 0


My logic tells me that
we have some rectangles R[-1,1]x[0,pi] but I'm confused by the z=0
 
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christian0710 said:
I really need help with this problem.

Find the volume of the solid enclosed by the surface z=1+exsiny and the planes x=±1, y=0, y=pi and z= 0 My logic tells me that
we have some rectangles R[-1,1]x[0,pi] but I'm confused by the z=0

The planes ##x=\pm 1, y=0, y=\pi## form the vertical side walls of the solid. The plane ##z=0## forms the "floor" or base of the solid. The equation ##z=e^x\sin y+1## is the curvy roof of the solid. Does that help?
 
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This gives me a better picture of what is going on :)
So I will double integrate the function z, first with respect to x in the inverval [-1,1] and then with respect to y in the interval [0,2]

I guess there is no reason to include z=0, or do i somehow have to include that plane in the equation as well?
 
christian0710 said:
This gives me a better picture of what is going on :)
So I will double integrate the function z, first with respect to x in the inverval [-1,1] and then with respect to y in the interval [0,2]

I guess there is no reason to include z=0, or do i somehow have to include that plane in the equation as well?

It is automatically included in that formula for volume:$$
\iint_A (z_{upper} - z_{lower})\, dydx$$In this case ##z_{lower}= 0##.
 
Ahh i see. so upper is z=e^x*sin(y) +1 and if we integrate it with respect to x we get ex*sin(y)+x because y is a constant so y is a constant right? :) and then we insert upper and lower limit (-1,1) and do the same for y with limits [0,2]
 
christian0710 said:
Ahh i see. so upper is z=e^x*sin(y) +1 and if we integrate it with respect to x we get ex*sin(y)+x because y is a constant so y is a constant right? :) and then we insert upper and lower limit (-1,1) and do the same for y with limits [0,2]

Yes.
 
When i integrate with respect to x first with limit [-1,1] i get e*sin(y)-e-1*sin(y)

Jesus i got to lern to write in latex! '
if i type ∫ e*sin(y)-e-1*sin(y), y,0,2) into my calculator i get 3,32 does that sound right. And do you know of any way to type the whole ting into a ti89 with limits for both?

Btw. Thank you for helping out!
 
christian0710 said:
When i integrate with respect to x first with limit [-1,1] i get e*sin(y)-e-1*sin(y)

Jesus i got to lern to write in latex! '
if i type ∫ e*sin(y)-e-1*sin(y), y,0,2) into my calculator i get 3,32 does that sound right. And do you know of any way to type the whole ting into a ti89 with limits for both?

Btw. Thank you for helping out!

That looks correct, but why would you want to use a calculator in the first place? Can't you just leave the exact answer in terms of ##e## and ##\cos 2##?
 
Yes I can and finally did it all by hand!
It always feels rewarding when you succeed in doing the things you find most difficult :)
 

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