Integrals involving Secant & Tangent Derivation

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Homework Statement


If the power of the secand is even and positive..
\int sec^{2k} x tan^{n} x dx = \int (sec^2 x)^{k-1} tan ^n x sec^2 x dx

The Attempt at a Solution



The way I see it,

sec^{2k} x = sec^2 x dx * sec^k x dx

the next step seems to be to break down sec^k, but on closer introspection, the break down goes something like this

sec^k x dx = (sec^2 x dx)^{k-1} = sec^{2k-2}x dx

I'm having trouble intuitively accepting that something like 2k-2 = k. It doesn't seem to add up, there seems to be something a bit more complex into it that is left out of detail.
 
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You may want to review your exponent rules.
 
gopher_p said:
You may want to review your exponent rules.

(x^n)^m = x^{nm}
sec^m x = (sec x)^m
(sec^2 x)^{k-1} = (sec x)^ {(2)(k-1)}
 
OK. If ## x^{nm}=(x^n)^m ## (which is correct), then what is ## x^n\cdot x^m ##?
 
Nano-Passion said:

Homework Statement


If the power of the secand is even and positive..
\int sec^{2k} x tan^{n} x dx = \int (sec^2 x)^{k-1} tan ^n x sec^2 x dx
This is right, note that there are two terms on the right integral.

Nano-Passion said:

The Attempt at a Solution



The way I see it,

sec^{2k} x = sec^2 x dx * sec^k x dx

Umm, I don't think that's right remember that a^{b}*a^{c}=a^{b+c}

I also don't know where your dx terms are coming from there.

Nano-Passion said:
the next step seems to be to break down sec^k, but on closer introspection, the break down goes something like this

sec^k x dx = (sec^2 x dx)^{k-1} = sec^{2k-2}x dx

I'm having trouble intuitively accepting that something like 2k-2 = k. It doesn't seem to add up, there seems to be something a bit more complex into it that is left out of detail.

You seem to have multiplied your exponents correctly, but forgot that there is another sec^{2}x term in the right integral up top.

When doing this integral

\int sec^{2k} x tan^{n} x dx = \int (sec^2 x)^{k-1} tan ^n x sec^2 x dx

From here there is a handy trig identity involving sec^{2}x that you can use to make it into something easy to use u substitution on.
 
gopher_p said:
OK. If ## x^{nm}=(x^n)^m ## (which is correct), then what is ## x^n\cdot x^m ##?

= x^{n+m}
 
InfinityZero said:
This is right, note that there are two terms on the right integral.
Umm, I don't think that's right remember that a^{b}*a^{c}=a^{b+c}

I also don't know where your dx terms are coming from there.[/tex]

I tend to do silly mistakes sometimes, just ignore them.

You seem to have multiplied your exponents correctly, but forgot that there is another sec^{2}x term in the right integral up top.

When doing this integral

\int sec^{2k} x tan^{n} x dx = \int (sec^2 x)^{k-1} tan ^n x sec^2 x dx

Oh there you go, now I get back the original expression. Thanks. ^.^

From here there is a handy trig identity involving sec^{2}x that you can use to make it into something easy to use u substitution on.

I know about u substitution, the calculation is fairly trivial to me. What I was primarily concerned with is the derivation.
 
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