Integrate 1/(9-x^2)dx - Basic Integral Help

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The problem involves integrating the function 1/(9-x^2) with respect to x. Participants are exploring various methods to approach this integral, including trigonometric substitution and partial fraction decomposition.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster attempts to apply different integration techniques, including arccotangent, logarithmic functions, and trigonometric substitution, but expresses confusion about the correct approach. Some participants suggest using trigonometric substitution, while others mention that partial fractions could also be applicable. There is a discussion about the setup of the integral and the implications of treating it as an improper integral.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and suggestions for methods. There is recognition of the challenges faced by the original poster, and some guidance is offered regarding the correct form of the trigonometric substitution. However, there is no explicit consensus on the best method to proceed.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the integral is improper due to the limits of integration approaching a critical point, which adds complexity to the problem. There is also mention of the original poster's frustration with the integration process.

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the problem is integrate 1/(9-x^2)dx.

For some reason I'm just drawing a blank. I've tried to fit arccot, ln, and trig sub and get nowhere. Is it part frac decomp? I don't know i think I'm just making it harder than it is.
any insight is appreciated.
 
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Let's see what you've tried for a trig sub (that's how I'd do it).
 
Partial fractions would also work.
 
Yes it would, but I didn't want to torture him by demanding that he type out 2 attempts. So I picked my favorite method. :D
 
I'm using u= asinθ so sinθ= x/3 & dx = 3cosθ dθ & 3cosθ = 9-x2

so subing in I get the integral 3cosθ/3cosθ dθ which reduces to one and equates to x after integration.

The thing is this is really an improper integral problem
Integral from 0 to 3 of 1/(9-x2)
so if I get x when I integrate I have

lim [x]a0
a-->3-

so the lim is 3 but this doesn't seem right
 
jspek9 said:
I'm using u= asinθ so sinθ= x/3 & dx = 3cosθ dθ

Sure, that's just what I would have done.

& 3cosθ = 9-x2

No, that's not right. It should be the following:

3\cos(\theta)=\sqrt{9-x^2}

This implies the following.

9\cos^2(\theta)=9-x^2

Do you see why?
 
oooooooohhhhh it doesn't fit the form the way i was trying to use it. i probably should have looked up the form before i got so frustrated. oh well ill know next time thanks for the help:)
 

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