Integrating $\frac{t^{3}}{\sqrt{3 + t^{2}}}$: A Solution

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves integrating the function \(\frac{t^{3}}{\sqrt{3 + t^{2}}}\). The discussion centers around the methods of integration, particularly integration by parts and substitution techniques.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the original integral and question whether it was copied correctly. There are suggestions to rewrite the integral for clarity and to consider different methods, such as integration by parts and substitution.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on rewriting the integral and suggested alternative approaches. There is an ongoing exploration of the correctness of the initial problem statement and the methods proposed.

Contextual Notes

There are indications of confusion regarding the original integral's formulation, with participants questioning the presence of \(t^3\) versus \(t^2\). Additionally, there is a mention of constraints related to the space provided for the question.

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Homework Statement



\int \frac{t^{3}}{\sqrt{3 + t^{2}}}

Homework Equations



∫udv = uv - ∫vdu

The Attempt at a Solution


So I tried integration by parts, then I had to integrate the last term with the same method, and then I got a u substitution integral, in the end I got.

\int \frac{t^{3}}{\sqrt{3 + t^{2}}} = \frac{t^{4}}{\sqrt{3+t^{2}}\cdot 4} - \frac{t^{3}}{\sqrt{3+t^{2}}\cdot 2} - \sqrt[3/2]{3+t^{2}} +9\cdot \sqrt{3+t^{2}}

This seems a little long for the space given for the question, so could someone confirm the correctness of this integral? Also how would I go about being more efficient in solving my integrals?
 
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Are you sure this integral is copied correctly? The answer isn't pretty and is longer than your answer. In the future, try to include all of your intermediate steps as well.

Are you sure one of the ##t^3## isn't supposed to be a ##t^2##?
 
Panphobia said:
This seems a little long for the space given for the question, so could someone confirm the correctness of this integral?
Don't let the space provided in a question throw you off. It has no value when solving problems. Don't get caught up in head games.

If you rewrite the question as \int t^3 \cdot (3+t^3)^\frac{-1}{2} dt, it might be a bit easier.

The only way I can see this problem being solved is integration by parts numerous times to eliminate the t3 term.
It's very painful but is good practice.
 
scurty said:
Are you sure this integral is copied correctly? The answer isn't pretty and is longer than your answer. In the future, try to include all of your intermediate steps as well.

Are you sure one of the ##t^3## isn't supposed to be a ##t^2##?

I corrected it, my question was wrong.
 
Panphobia said:
I corrected it, my question was wrong.
That makes a huge difference.

Show how you do the first integration by parts.

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See Dick's reply (next). That should work fine.
 
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Panphobia said:
I corrected it, my question was wrong.

Alright, then just start with the substitution u=3+t^2. I don't think you need integration by parts at all. Show your work.
 

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