Integrating to an absolute value?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around understanding a specific integral step related to calculating the electric field along the axis of a polarized cylinder. The integral involves expressions with the absolute value of a variable related to the cylinder's dimensions.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion regarding the transition to expressions involving absolute values in the integral. There are attempts to clarify the reasoning behind the absolute value in the context of the integral setup.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights into the mathematical reasoning, particularly regarding the interpretation of the absolute value in relation to the square root of a variable. However, the discussion remains open, with ongoing questions about the integral step.

Contextual Notes

Participants note a lack of external resources that clarify the integral step, indicating that the problem may involve assumptions or identities that are not immediately clear. The repeated nature of the posts suggests a shared uncertainty about the topic.

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Homework Statement


I need some help understanding an integral step in the example below. I get how the integrand was set up, but I don't get how comes to two expressions with the absolute value of z-L/2.

(Problem description if that is needed: L is the length of a cylinder with radius R, and P is the polarization of the cylinder in direction of its length. Calculate the electric field at a point on the axis of the rod)

Homework Equations



http://imageshack.us/a/img594/1895/absolutevalue.png

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand that step really. Google has no answers. I thought that it might have been some absolute value identities, but it seems that was not the case. Is there someone who'd lend a hand?
 
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Blastrix91 said:

Homework Statement


I need some help understanding an integral step in the example below. I get how the integrand was set up, but I don't get how comes to two expressions with the absolute value of z-L/2.

(Problem description if that is needed: L is the length of a cylinder with radius R, and P is the polarization of the cylinder in direction of its length. Calculate the electric field at a point on the axis of the rod)

Homework Equations



http://imageshack.us/a/img594/1895/absolutevalue.png

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand that step really. Google has no answers. I thought that it might have been some absolute value identities, but it seems that was not the case. Is there someone who'd lend a hand?

\int_0^R \frac{r}{\sqrt{r^2+a^2}} dr <br /> = \frac{1}{2} \int_{r=0}^R \frac{d(r^2)}{\sqrt{r^2+a^2}}<br /> = \frac{1}{2} \int_0^{R^2} \frac{dy}{\sqrt{y+a^2}} = \left. \sqrt{y+a^2}\right|_0^{R^2} Look at what you get if a > 0 or a < 0.

RGV
 
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Blastrix91 said:

Homework Statement


I need some help understanding an integral step in the example below. I get how the integrand was set up, but I don't get how comes to two expressions with the absolute value of z-L/2.

(Problem description if that is needed: L is the length of a cylinder with radius R, and P is the polarization of the cylinder in direction of its length. Calculate the electric field at a point on the axis of the rod)

Homework Equations



http://imageshack.us/a/img594/1895/absolutevalue.png

The Attempt at a Solution


I don't understand that step really. Google has no answers. I thought that it might have been some absolute value identities, but it seems that was not the case. Is there someone who'd lend a hand?

It's because, \displaystyle \sqrt{u^2}=|u|\ .
 
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Wow thank you. That was pretty helpful
 

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