Integration using given values

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The discussion revolves around an integration problem involving a continuous function f(x) defined on the interval [2, ∞) with specific properties and constraints. Participants are tasked with determining the value of an integral involving the derivative of f(x) multiplied by an exponential decay function.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relevance of the condition |f(x)| < x^8 + 8 and question its necessity for solving the problem. There are mentions of using integration by parts and evaluating limits of integration. Some participants express uncertainty about how to utilize the given equations effectively.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants sharing their attempts at using integration by parts and evaluating limits. Some guidance has been offered regarding the importance of certain conditions, though no consensus has been reached on the necessity of specific details in the problem setup.

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There is mention of the need to justify the behavior of f(x) as x approaches infinity, and some participants suggest using L'Hôpital's rule for evaluating limits. The original poster expresses confusion about how to apply the given information effectively.

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Homework Statement



Let f(x) be a continuous function defined on the interval [2, ∞) such that

f(2) = 12

|f(x)| < x^8 + 8

and

⌠∞
f(x) * e^(−x/4) dx = −8
⌡2

Determine the value of

⌠∞
f′(x) * e^(−x/4) dx
⌡2

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The Attempt at a Solution



I started by writing out the integrations. So I have

-4F(∞)e^(-∞/4) + 4(F(2)*e^(-1/2)) = -8
and
-4f(∞)e^(-∞/4) + 4f(2)*e^(-1/2) = ?

I see that I can use f(2) = 12 in the second equation, but I don't see how to use the first equation at all. Nor do I see how |f(x)| < x^8 + 8 can help me. Thoughts?
 
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I'm not terrible sure why you need

[tex]|f(x)| < x^8 + 8[/tex]. It seems a bit too specific since we can get an answer without needing that level of specificity (unless I'm wrong in my solution)


All it depends on is the fact that [tex]O(f(x)) = x^n[/tex]

Use integration by parts on the equation you're trying to find a value for. Then you will use all the information you've been given.

Note: you will need [tex]|f(x)| < x^8 + 8[/tex]. to justify why

[tex]e^{\frac{-x}{4}} f(x) \rightarrow 0[/tex] as [tex]x\rightarrow \infty[/tex]
 
Use integration by parts on the equation you're trying to find a value for. Then you will use all the information you've been given.

Thank you! Everything works out perfectly after that.

So after integration by parts, I have:

I = f(x)*e^(-x/4) + (1/4)int f(x)*e^(-x/4)dx

Plug in the values and I have:

f(∞)e^(-∞/4) - 12e^(-1/2) + (1/4)(-8)

0 -12e^(-1/2) -2
 
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Right, but don't forget to evaluate at the limits of integration, and note why we do actually need

[tex]|f(x)| < x^8 + 8[/tex]

though not in that level of specificity. The problem could've stated that as any polynomial for it to work under the method I've shown here. If you don't know enough about big-oh notation to note that
[tex]e^{\frac{-x}{4}} f(x) \rightarrow 0[/tex] as [tex]x\rightarrow \infty[/tex]

then try and convince yourself by taking the limit of the product as [tex]x\rightarrow \infty[/tex]. Note that you will have to use l'hospital's rule, both factors are infinitely differentiable, and that [tex]\forall p_n(x) \in P_n[x] \: \frac{d^{n+1}}{dx^{n+1}}p_n(x) = 0[/tex]
 
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