Intensive gas variables problem

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Intensive gas variables, such as pressure and temperature, do not depend on the size of the system. When a gas container is sliced, extensive variables like volume and internal kinetic energy are halved, but pressure remains unchanged. This is because pressure is determined by the concentration of molecules colliding with the container walls, not the total number of molecules. The concept of pressure being an intensive property clarifies that it is related to the density of molecules rather than their absolute quantity. Understanding this distinction resolves the confusion regarding why pressure does not decrease when the gas container is sliced.
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i just came to learn that the intensive gas variables like pressure and temperature don't depend on the system size. now suppose , i sliced out a gas container into an imaginary plane and i got the extensive variable of volume and internal kinetic energy to be halved..
but why shouldn't the pressure be halved down too as the number of gaseous molecules are decreasing simultaneously with the slicing!
well, i understand the pressure is created by collisions of the molecules on the container walls, so please clarify me the concept why the pressure should not be changed in this case??

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hi cooper607! :smile:
cooper607 said:
… i sliced out a gas container into an imaginary plane and i got the extensive variable of volume and internal kinetic energy to be halved..
but why shouldn't the pressure be halved down too as the number of gaseous molecules are decreasing simultaneously with the slicing!
well, i understand the pressure is created by collisions of the molecules on the container walls, so please clarify me the concept why the pressure should not be changed in this case??

i don't follow you :redface:

yes, pressure is created by collisions of the molecules on the container walls,

but they're nowhere near your imaginary plane, so why should that make any difference? :confused:

(do you have an equation for this which is confusing you?)
 
cooper607 said:
but why shouldn't the pressure be halved down too as the number of gaseous molecules are decreasing simultaneously with the slicing!
So you think that if you take an empty bottle and you close it with a cork, the pressure inside will decrease??

Your confusion may come form the fact that the pressure depends on the concentration of molecules and not on the total number of them. This is why it is an intensive parameter.
 
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