Interesting phenomena of boiled water and my coffee.

AI Thread Summary
The discussion centers on the phenomenon observed when boiling water is poured into a coffee filter that creates a seal with the cup. The user notes that no coffee dripped through initially, but fizzing occurred, suggesting bubbles of air may be forming and mimicking boiling. Participants agree that the increased air pressure inside the sealed container likely prevents the coffee from dripping until the seal is broken. When the seal is lifted, coffee begins to drip more freely, supporting the idea that pressure dynamics are at play. This exploration highlights the interesting relationship between air pressure and liquid flow in a sealed environment.
BOAS
Messages
546
Reaction score
19
Hello,

whilst making my coffee this morning (more like this afternoon, but hey I'm a student), I noticed something that I thought was cool and I'm interested in hearing what you guys think may be happening and/or what you have to say about my ideas.

So, I have these 'coffee filters' that are halfway between proper coffee and instant coffee. They are essentially open plastic containers with a filter paper sachet filled with ground coffee as the base that fit in the top of a coffee cup. You pour boiling water into the top and the coffee drips down into the cup.

I poured the water into the top and walked away to put my bread in the toaster. I came back and noticed no coffee had dripped through, but there was fizzing in the hot water. Enough that little droplets were being thrown a few centimeters above the surface.

The coffee filter creates a reasonably tight seal around the cup so what is going on?

Is the hot water heating the air inside the glass raising it's pressure and forcing it out through the water, or perhaps the coffee trying to drip into the glass is raising the pressure by decreasing the volume the air can occupy. Or is there something stranger going on causing the water to reach boiling point again?

I know this is lacking in the physics side of things, but it would be cool to understand why.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Is the hot water heating the air inside the glass raising it's pressure and forcing it out through the water
That looks like a possible explanation. Bubbles of air can look like boiling water, even without actual boiling. And if you have no other way for air to escape...
or perhaps the coffee trying to drip into the glass is raising the pressure by decreasing the volume the air can occupy
I thought no coffee had dripped through?
 
Thanks for the response.

mfb said:
That looks like a possible explanation. Bubbles of air can look like boiling water, even without actual boiling. And if you have no other way for air to escape...
I thought no coffee had dripped through?

Yeah, that does seem like the most likely explanation and yes, no water had dripped through so that idea is unlikely.

I think this further observation strengthens the idea of the air pressure being increased; If I break the seal by lifting the container out of the glass for a moment, equalising the pressure, coffee begins to drip frequently, whereas if I leave it to it's own devices it can take upwards of a minute for anything to happen!
 
Hi there, im studying nanoscience at the university in Basel. Today I looked at the topic of intertial and non-inertial reference frames and the existence of fictitious forces. I understand that you call forces real in physics if they appear in interplay. Meaning that a force is real when there is the "actio" partner to the "reactio" partner. If this condition is not satisfied the force is not real. I also understand that if you specifically look at non-inertial reference frames you can...
I have recently been really interested in the derivation of Hamiltons Principle. On my research I found that with the term ##m \cdot \frac{d}{dt} (\frac{dr}{dt} \cdot \delta r) = 0## (1) one may derivate ##\delta \int (T - V) dt = 0## (2). The derivation itself I understood quiet good, but what I don't understand is where the equation (1) came from, because in my research it was just given and not derived from anywhere. Does anybody know where (1) comes from or why from it the...

Similar threads

Back
Top